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Old 07-31-2013, 09:26 PM
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Retaining wall advice

Hi,

I'm looking at this job, the HO is looking to get a retaining wall 2' in height and 25' in length out of 8x8x16 cinder blocks. Additionally, a 6' high wood fence would be anchored to the retaining wall.

My question, how deep should the footing be? I quoted a 16"W X 24"D concrete footing. I'm wondering if this is overkill or not? What size would you build the concrete footing? Is the width more important than the depth on a retaining wall/fence setup like this? Overall, the height of the wall and fence would be 8'

The HO request the cinder blocks to be filled in with concrete. The job is on county property and usually retaining walls under 3ft do not require a permit. I'm not sure if the situation changes once a 6' wood fence is added, in regards to obtaining a permit. I'm going to call tomorrow.

Any help would be appreciated, thanks!
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Old 07-31-2013, 11:15 PM
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Retaining wall advice

Go below frost line in your area
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Old 07-31-2013, 11:44 PM
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I hope you don't specify "cinder block" in your proposal because you may have a problem locating cinder block.

"Cinder block" has not been in production since the 1970's......
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I hope you don't specify "cinder block" in your proposal because you may have a problem locating cinder block.

"Cinder block" has not been in production since the 1970's......
Seen some at Lowes
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That's concrete block. What wise guy meant to say is that cinder block was made with...cinders. Ash. To keep them light. They don't make them anymore. Still commonly called cinder block.

8x16 wide footing located below frost is sufficient. Tie some rebar in and dura wall and you're golden.
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Old 08-01-2013, 09:20 AM
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Seen some at Lowes
It's not cinder block
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Old 08-01-2013, 09:21 AM
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Sub it out to one of the 1/2 day guys hear on lawnsite.
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Old 08-01-2013, 10:08 AM
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That's concrete block. What wise guy meant to say is that cinder block was made with...cinders. Ash. To keep them light. They don't make them anymore. Still commonly called cinder block.

8x16 wide footing located below frost is sufficient. Tie some rebar in and dura wall and you're golden.
When drafting legal documents (known as proposals), its advised to use the correct terms and names.

You are WRONG. its not commonly cinder block.

perhaps it was through the 80's. and old men may still call it that.

The name is concrete masonry units (CMU).

And that's what the proposal needs to state.

If you state "cinder block", then you're committing yourself to providing something that you can only find stacked out behind someone's barn.
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I have about 300 cinder blocks come and get them
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Old 08-01-2013, 11:21 AM
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I have about 300 cinder blocks come and get them
Better do a core sample, they may be cmu. I think DVS meant well, he just didn't say it in the most polite way, but what do you expect from a guy located in the county jail.
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