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Old 10-13-2014, 01:51 PM
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72" Dixie Chopper - Twin Kohler Engines

Does anyone know much about these DC's? The model I'm referring to is a 72" DC with the twin 20 hp Kohlers, making it 40 hp. I've did some searching, watched some videos, etc. I can't find any good information or bad information, I did see some videos of them plowing through 6 foot tall grass. But haven't found any "information" on them. Anyone know the specs? Hydro Size? Mph? Cut Quality? Reliability? Parts costs?
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Old 10-13-2014, 02:38 PM
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Does anyone know much about these DC's? The model I'm referring to is a 72" DC with the twin 20 hp Kohlers, making it 40 hp. I've did some searching, watched some videos, etc. I can't find any good information or bad information, I did see some videos of them plowing through 6 foot tall grass. But haven't found any "information" on them. Anyone know the specs? Hydro Size? Mph? Cut Quality? Reliability? Parts costs?
Cut is great but ask Snyder about them. All I can say is expect 3-6 gph fuel consumption. You can disengage one engine if you don't need it.
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Old 10-13-2014, 02:56 PM
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Gotcha.

I'm looking at three different ones right now.

John Deere 757 60" with 25 hp Kohler Command - VERY LOW HOURS
Toro 62" Z - VERY LOW HOURS - Water Cooled 23 hp - DOWN SIDE (SFS DECK)

and this

72" Dixie Chopper - Has higher hours.

I really like the Deere and I love the water cooled Z Master, but don't like the SFS deck, at least from the things I read about it.
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Old 10-13-2014, 03:03 PM
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Gotcha.

I'm looking at three different ones right now.

John Deere 757 60" with 25 hp Kohler Command - VERY LOW HOURS
Toro 62" Z - VERY LOW HOURS - Water Cooled 23 hp - DOWN SIDE (SFS DECK)

and this

72" Dixie Chopper - Has higher hours.

I really like the Deere and I love the water cooled Z Master, but don't like the SFS deck, at least from the things I read about it.
Prices on these?
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Old 10-13-2014, 03:17 PM
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Buy the deere. Best cutting deck in the industry.
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Old 10-13-2014, 03:38 PM
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That's what I'm leaning towards. I thought the Deere was a Kohler, just found out it's a Kawi 25.

Deere I can get for $4,500 - 300 Hours
Toro Z Master Water Cooled - 285 hours homeowner owned - $3,800.
Dixie - $3,800.00 (More hours then I'm interested in (1,500)
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Old 10-13-2014, 03:54 PM
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That's what I'm leaning towards. I thought the Deere was a Kohler, just found out it's a Kawi 25.

Deere I can get for $4,500 - 300 Hours
Toro Z Master Water Cooled - 285 hours homeowner owned - $3,800.
Dixie - $3,800.00 (More hours then I'm interested in (1,500)
Best machine will be the z-master. Best stripe will be the Dixie. Best cutting for your area will be the Deere.
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Old 10-13-2014, 03:57 PM
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Best machine will be the z-master. Best stripe will be the Dixie. Best cutting for your area will be the Deere.
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EXACTLY What I was thinking. I was thinking more along the lines of; Fastest would be the Dixie. Best machine would be the Z Master. Best cut would be the Deere. I like that Toro a lot, just have no experience with the SFS deck and I'm not reading anything good about them. The Deere guy doesn't want to wiggle around much on his price even though it's at the end of the season.
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Old 10-13-2014, 04:07 PM
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I'd take the JD over the others and never think twice about it. Yes, I run a JD and have a ton of their equipment in my shop, but I am no fan of the company itself, nor will I be buying another one unless something drastically changes with the company and their designs, so it isn't bias on my part. Just stating which choice I'd make.

Those 757's are very good machines. The Toro is certainly not a better machine. period. The 7 Iron will stripe as good as ny DC if set up correctly, and will easily outcut the Toro deck. The Kawi in the JD is a horizontal shaft, and they (horizontal shaft engines) seem to turn out more power HP for HP than vertical shaft engines from the same manu. The only thing you need to be aware of is to keep the cooling fins under the engine shroud cleaned out since the design and location of those engines tend to suck more dust in around the fins than an equivalent VS engine does.
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Old 10-13-2014, 04:10 PM
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I'd take the JD over the others and never think twice about it. Yes, I run a JD and have a ton of their equipment in my shop, but I am no fan of the company itself, so it isn't bias on my part. Just stating which choice I'd make.

Those 757's are very good machines. The Toro is certainly not a better machine. period. The 7 Iron will stripe as good as ny DC if set up correctly, and will easily outcut the Toro deck. The Kawi in the JD is a horizontal shaft, and they (horizontal shaft engines) seem to turn out more power HP for HP than vertical shaft engines from the same manu. The only thing you need to be aware of is to keep the cooling fins under the engine shroud cleaned out since the design and location of those engines tend to suck more dust in around the fins than an equivalent VS engine does.

Yes sir. I know all about the fin's, Kawi engines, and JD's. I honestly think I'd be happier with the John Deere as far as cutting goes. I just like that water cooled engine on the Toro. Especially the 23 horse Kawi is suppose to be a very good engine. I found a 54" that has 800 hours, he wants 500 cheaper for, for $500. less hours. Kind of like I'd be paying $1.00 less per hour on the machine. But an hour to me is worth much more then a $1.00. So I'm thinking the lower hour 300 hour machine would be the best buy. The 60" would suit me better. The 54" has a brand new FH721.
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