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Old 08-15-2013, 12:26 AM
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If you ever have time demo a ferris 3100, a scag cheetah and a Gravely 400 series. They each have a different feel and it all depends on your properties.
This is a good point, to add to what I say on previous page to weaver <

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I've never had a problem, I've helped people make up their minds all over the country on what mower best suited their needs, from Ferris, Bad Boy, Scag, and Bobcat mainly. Most people mowing the small area they mow, and I consider that anything less than an acre, have no use for a mower of high speed.

I will tell you now, if I could not utilize the extra speed, I would be operating the 3100, with the 37 DFI tomorrow.



Four wheel independent suspension is far advanced to what a Cheetah has to offer, common sense will tell you this, the 3100 is in a class of its own.
If my calculations are correct & they do appear to be without me using a laser for start/stop, then the 3100 being lets say a 12.8 mph mower, would be very close to or right on a 14 mph mower with 26 " tires.

Since you cant utilise the true 15.8 and you say your more often than not using 14mph range, then this would bring the 3100 so close to a fast enough mower for you also. Would that be right. I would go as far as to say you would complete your mowing just as quickly taking into account the entire property, because your rough sections you will be able to cut twice as quickly. I don't know what percentage of your property you find yourself backing off even a little due to even small bumps, but if you do back of for them on the SZ you wouldn't do that on the Ferris as you know.

So I'm betting you would complete your property in the same time frame.
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Old 08-15-2013, 05:07 AM
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This is a good point, to add to what I say on previous page to weaver <



If my calculations are correct & they do appear to be without me using a laser for start/stop, then the 3100 being lets say a 12.8 mph mower, would be very close to or right on a 14 mph mower with 26 " tires.

Since you cant utilise the true 15.8 and you say your more often than not using 14mph range, then this would bring the 3100 so close to a fast enough mower for you also. Would that be right. I would go as far as to say you would complete your mowing just as quickly taking into account the entire property, because your rough sections you will be able to cut twice as quickly. I don't know what percentage of your property you find yourself backing off even a little due to even small bumps, but if you do back of for them on the SZ you wouldn't do that on the Ferris as you know.

So I'm betting you would complete your property in the same time frame.
This is what we have been trying to get across to him forever lol.
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Old 08-15-2013, 05:44 AM
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This is what we have been trying to get across to him forever lol.
True enough, but im more convinced of it now that I know the 3100 Is capable of 13mph rather than 12.
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Old 08-15-2013, 06:17 AM
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I've never run the Cheetah, but common sense will tell you there is no mower suspension that can compare with 4-wheel independent suspension, it just can't happen.

You could put the Cheetah cutting the row-crop fields that are now grassed lawns "greenology" has showed video of mowing, and you would have a hard time staying in the seat of the Cheetah, especially at the speed he was cutting with the Ferris.
Never say it cant happen...real world conditions are the only deciding factor. Ask any engineer. All I ask is to actually test something before throwing out blanket statements on LS.
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Old 08-15-2013, 06:18 AM
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Yea that's what I thought you were referring too...

I can say from experience that its not a toss up, theres a dramatic difference
Thank you...Spoken from experience.
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Old 08-15-2013, 07:27 AM
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Yea that's what I thought you were referring too...

I can say from experience that its not a toss up, theres a dramatic difference
I would have thought different, but that is good to know....
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Old 08-15-2013, 07:52 AM
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I'll tell you the best thing about the 37DFI is that if you mow properties that get mowed weekly or twice weekly, the DFI will save you fuel since its not loaded up at all. But if you get to the really tall/thick stuff, then the ECM sends more fuel to it and it will chug through almost anything without bogging down at all like a carb model will.

Give it another year or two, and you will see more 37DFI powered machines by OEMs other than Ferris and Bobcat.

The cheetah is nice compared to a lot of mowers out there. But take a super z with a nice seat on it and flew forks and it rides better than the cheetah.

No comparison to a 3100Z
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Old 08-15-2013, 07:59 AM
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Greenology, in your opinion what rode better? The cheetah or your super z?
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Old 08-15-2013, 07:59 AM
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hmm, the only similarity I can see are the 4 wheels and a cutting deck?
Yeah, that's exactly what I'm talking about.
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Old 08-15-2013, 02:54 PM
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Trying to work out the details on getting a 3100 demo!! Going back to my dealer to grab the new scag WB for a couple days to finish that review first.
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