Register free!

The Green Industry's Resource Center



Reply
 
Thread Tools   Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-13-2013, 10:33 AM
MDLawn MDLawn is offline
LawnSite Bronze Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Western NY
Posts: 1,284
What are the major differences?

After reading a few threads the past couple days it amazes/confuses me how some (few) companies are or look highly successful and the majority are scraping along. I'm not going to mention names but those who frequent lawnsite will be able to figure out the names. Some are in the maintenance side, others design build, and very few in very high end design build. I guess the ones in the maintenance side of the business would be comparable to 90% of lawnsiters. So what makes the few so successful compared to the majority who haven't a dime at the end of a month or year? And it has nothing to do with work quality as most do good work when comparing. And i wouldnt compare someone with crummy work to an outstanding company anyways as that is just foolish. Why does one company cry about not being able to charge where the others charge what they want at will and both provide superior service? Why does one company complain about lazy worthless workers when the other cant praise their crew(s) enough? How come one company pays to take their employees to trainings and the others stand idly by saying they can afford it? Why are others able to have elaborate shops and others still working out of mom and dads basement because they cannot afford to pay rent for living or business?

What truly separates these businesses that perform similar work?

Marketing?
Branding?
Employment practices?
Budgeting?
Charging enough?
Purchasing practices?
Working IN vs. Working ON your business?


Or is it just pure luck? (I don't think so).
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 08-13-2013, 11:53 AM
snomaha's Avatar
snomaha snomaha is offline
LawnSite Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: midwest
Posts: 559
SBA data shows that half of all small businesses fail in the first 5 years, 1/3 survive 10 years and 1/4 make it to 15 - here is my thoughts on why so many fail:

1. Inefficient operations/labor.
2. Not knowing your numbers/poor accounting.
3. Poor planning/vision/management.
4. Under capitalized - cash flow issues.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-13-2013, 05:27 PM
dllawson dllawson is offline
LawnSite Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Southeast, GA
Posts: 172
The difference all comes down to Business Management.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-13-2013, 05:41 PM
Patriot Services's Avatar
Patriot Services Patriot Services is online now
LawnSite Fanatic
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Tampa FL
Posts: 8,807
Too many guys focus on straight stripes instead of the bottom line. Too many grass cutters, too few businessman.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-13-2013, 05:48 PM
larryinalabama larryinalabama is offline
LawnSite Fanatic
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Ragland Al
Posts: 11,397
I think a lot of the fellers have wives they cant afford.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-13-2013, 06:58 PM
MDLawn MDLawn is offline
LawnSite Bronze Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Western NY
Posts: 1,284
Quote:
Originally Posted by Patriot Services View Post
Too many guys focus on straight stripes instead of the bottom line. Too many grass cutters, too few businessman.
You're hitting the point I think I'm trying to make/figure out.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-13-2013, 08:10 PM
GMLC's Avatar
GMLC GMLC is offline
LawnSite Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 4,367
Like you said many do great work, few know business....
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 08-13-2013, 08:18 PM
ArtLikeLandscapes ArtLikeLandscapes is online now
LawnSite Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: South GA / North FL
Posts: 109
I think half are full of it and say they have a multi million dollar company while there truck and trailer with a craftsman rider and a bolens weedeater are parked in front of there 1974 single wide trailer that is still financed. I wish lawnsite had a way to validate members because a lot of members on here don't have a clue and are giving advice.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 08-13-2013, 08:30 PM
123hotdog's Avatar
123hotdog 123hotdog is offline
LawnSite Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Bristol TN
Posts: 459
Patriot Services and LarryinAlabama hit the nail on the head. I was in business for two years before I owned a truck or a riding mower. I was mowing 18 lawns with a Chevy Blazer; push mower, and some of them were so big it took 3 tanks of fuel in the push mower to get them mowed. All while I had a regular day job. I had no excuse I spent 15 years as a restaurant manager and a district manager. I know my numbers. One fine sunny day, I got rid of that b*tch and the rest is history. I have started buying one foreclosed home a year (paying cash I might add) and remodeling it in the winter for the purpose of rental income. Life is good.
__________________
Licensed and Insured
Operating since 2007
1993 Isuzu NPR dove tail open bed 4cyl diesel
1978 F-350 Dump Truck
1988 Z-71 Chevy 4x4 Meyers Plow
2005 Chevy HD 2500 6.0
1989 Toyota One ton Flatbed
2013 61" Bad Boy Outlaw XP 36 Vanguard
2013 54" Bad Boy Outlaw Stander Kawasaki
2014 48" Wright Walk Behind
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 08-13-2013, 08:35 PM
MDLawn MDLawn is offline
LawnSite Bronze Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Western NY
Posts: 1,284
Quote:
Originally Posted by ArtLikeLandscapes View Post
I wish lawnsite had a way to validate members because a lot of members on here don't have a clue and are giving advice.
I've thought the same. Dangerous information in the wrong hands.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump





Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1998 - 2012, LawnSite.comô - Moose River Media
All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:05 AM.

Page generated in 0.06973 seconds with 9 queries