Register free!
Search
 
     

Click for Weather
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-02-2003, 07:27 PM
bbroussard bbroussard is offline
LawnSite Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: louisiana
Posts: 2
Bermuda overseeding question

I have a client that has a St. Augustine yard and wants to go with a bermuda grass. It is not that big of a yard. I was wondering what is the best way to go about doing this. Would broadcasting on top the St. Aug work or should i remove all the sod and then put the seed down
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-02-2003, 08:46 PM
NC Big Daddy NC Big Daddy is offline
LawnSite Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Charlotte Zone 7/8
Posts: 267
Well.........I'll be nice this time

You should know you don't seed Bermuda........Sod it.........I know you can buy Bermuda seed but you wont get the results you or your customers want.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-02-2003, 09:01 PM
ipm's Avatar
ipm ipm is offline
LawnSite Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Atlanta, Ga.
Posts: 264
If it is a small as you say, I would use a sod cutter to remove the S.A. and re-sod bermuda. This will give you a clean job.

Overseeding will not work!
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-02-2003, 09:20 PM
greenman greenman is offline
LawnSite Addict
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Little Rock, AR
Posts: 1,405
Re: Well.........I'll be nice this time

Quote:
Originally posted by NC Big Daddy
You should know you don't seed Bermuda........Sod it.........I know you can buy Bermuda seed but you wont get the results you or your customers want.
Can you please explain why the desired results cannot be accomplished with Bermuda seed?
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-02-2003, 09:34 PM
Ric's Avatar
Ric Ric is offline
LawnSite Fanatic
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: S W Florida
Posts: 10,822
Re: Re: Well.........I'll be nice this time

Quote:
Originally posted by greenman
Can you please explain why the desired results cannot be accomplished with Bermuda seed?
Ditto
__________________
.

"TG doesn't give a rats ass about being "Responsible" as long as sales/production quotas are met. That's it in a nutshell. A recipe for disaster IMO." Ted Putnam 2/28/14

You can lead a Donkey to water but you can't make the Jackass Drink

"As Americans you have the right to be stupid." John Kerry

"Life is tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid.” John Wayne.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-03-2003, 01:03 AM
KirbysLawn's Avatar
KirbysLawn KirbysLawn is offline
Millenium Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Just east of Charlotte, NC
Posts: 3,486
Double ditto.

Kill the St Aug, scalp it and slit seed it with Bermuda. Here is an example of a lawn I seeded with Bermuda, worked good for me.

Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-03-2003, 01:16 AM
johnhenry's Avatar
johnhenry johnhenry is offline
LawnSite Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: is the luck of the irish that I wish you the top of the day. As morning is only so long. From a lost irishman in Joplin, Missouri
Posts: 488
That was a old industry standard of just sodding bermuda.There was 67 different types of bermuda seed produce this year. Plus it wont be that far off in the future where bermuda will also be grown up farther north with more research everything is possible
__________________
May the Luck of the Irish be with you
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-03-2003, 06:23 AM
ipm's Avatar
ipm ipm is offline
LawnSite Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Atlanta, Ga.
Posts: 264
Quote:
Originally posted by KirbysLawn
Double ditto.

Kill the St Aug, scalp it and slit seed it with Bermuda. Here is an example of a lawn I seeded with Bermuda, worked good for me.

Very impressive. How long did it take to mature?? I have seeded before and did not get very good results. I guess I am just accustomed to throwing down pallets of grass. People where I am from like instant gratification.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 03-03-2003, 08:24 AM
SWD SWD is offline
LawnSite Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Central Texas - West of Austin in the Hill Country
Posts: 990
I would kill off the St. Aug with round-up before manually removing it.
Get a good soil test, specify on the test what you are going to do with the site, then follow the recommendations.
I have had both good luck and bad luck with seed and sod.
If the homeowner is looking for instant gratification, put in the sod.
As far as germination on Bermudagrass seed, I have found after seeding over fifty acres in different conditions (athletic fields, yards, roadsides - etc) that susstained soil temps above 90*F and soil pH to be the most important. It comes down to timing and site prep. And wether or not coated vs uncoated seed is used. I only use uncoated seed after trying both types.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 03-03-2003, 08:57 AM
Ric's Avatar
Ric Ric is offline
LawnSite Fanatic
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: S W Florida
Posts: 10,822
If the St Aug is in bad condition you can over seed it with Bermuda and use MSMA to kill off the ST Augustine after the Bermuda has gotten a good start. It is easy to take St Augustine out of Bermuda Too Bad it is impossible to take Bermuda out of St Augustine
__________________
.

"TG doesn't give a rats ass about being "Responsible" as long as sales/production quotas are met. That's it in a nutshell. A recipe for disaster IMO." Ted Putnam 2/28/14

You can lead a Donkey to water but you can't make the Jackass Drink

"As Americans you have the right to be stupid." John Kerry

"Life is tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid.” John Wayne.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump





Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1998 - 2012, LawnSite.com™ - Moose River Media
All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:05 PM.

Page generated in 0.09564 seconds with 7 queries