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Old 06-24-2013, 07:31 PM
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Would you take this job?

alright, so I was recommended by a neighbor to one of her friends to do some landscaping work. And well.... I didnt know it was this bad till I meet with the guy to give and talk about some ideas.


He bought the house about 4 years ago and now that the inside is done, he wants to start on the outside. As you can see it has been neglected for a while. He wants it all pulled out and redone. The soil is all clay and rock so I would have to dig down, remove some of the old material and replace with top soil. I am getting plant recommendations from a nursery. However in order to do some of these garden beds and put top soil in them, I would need some sort or machinery. I know how to operate a bobcat, would renting one be the best bet? or should i go with a smaller dingo walk behind digger.

Also could i just rent a roll off trailer and fill it up with soil and other material inorder to keep from going to the dump and finding a place too off load? Or i could as for a place to dump on his 30 acres.

I was thinking 60 an hour while using the bobcat + the price to rent for a day + the price to deliver and pick up in order to make the beds. I would have a worker which i would pay 12 an hour (25 plus my 60 and hour)


does this sound like a possibility? too cheep? or?
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Old 06-24-2013, 08:32 PM
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Charging per hour is horrible . Charge by the job, for example by sq ft of area renovated by determining your cost per sq ft.
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Old 06-24-2013, 08:42 PM
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Charging per hour is horrible . Charge by the job, for example by sq ft of area renovated by determining your cost per sq ft.
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So them what would be a decent sq ft rate?
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Old 06-24-2013, 08:57 PM
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Idk your costs. Measure the area, add all your expenses then divide by x SQ FT then you have your.cost per sq ft. Add.profit, & u r set.
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Old 06-24-2013, 09:08 PM
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Get a back hoe/loader tractor. Charge at least $150 per hr that covers your hourly rate+rental cost+materials. I think you come out better at an hour rate vs fixed rate. I couldnt guess the number of times I screwed myself over because I quoted a fixed price over an hourly rate and jobs ended up taking me longer than I thought it would.
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First of all, are you sure you need to replace soil? The yard is in rough condition, but its supporting a lawn pretty well. Definitely rent a bobcat. A dingo will be too small for moving the potential amount of earth you're thinking about. Talk to a local roll off dumpster company. When I do big dirt removal jobs, they will drop off 2 15-20yd dumpsters at a time and will keep replacing them as I need. I think you'll be fine to rototil the site, then regrade it. Take a soil sample
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Old 06-24-2013, 09:16 PM
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Get a back hoe/loader tractor. Charge at least $150 per hr that covers your hourly rate+rental cost+materials. I think you come out better at an hour rate vs fixed rate. I couldnt guess the number of times I screwed myself over because I quoted a fixed price over an hourly rate and jobs ended up taking me longer than I thought it would.


so 150 an hour would cover the 1 day rental cost, delivery, and diesel along with my pay right?
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Old 06-24-2013, 09:17 PM
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First of all, are you sure you need to replace soil? The yard is in rough condition, but its supporting a lawn pretty well. Definitely rent a bobcat. A dingo will be too small for moving the potential amount of earth you're thinking about. Talk to a local roll off dumpster company. When I do big dirt removal jobs, they will drop off 2 15-20yd dumpsters at a time and will keep replacing them as I need. I think you'll be fine to rototil the site, then regrade it. Take a soil sample
about how much did you pay for your roll off?



soil has a bunch of rock in it. The costumer would prefer to have fresh healthy soil added to the gardens, he is considering leaf grow or top soil,m which ever is cheaper.
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IMO $60 per hour on the Bobcat is too low. Around here $100 is pretty common. I would definitely use it over a dingo. If the customer is on 30 acres they will certainly let you dump somewhere so I wouldn't even consider renting a trailer for that. tell them they can save some money. if not, most places that deliver topsoil will haul off for you if you need it. My guy charges me $50 cash a truckload. I always use a hourly rate for jobs like this. Bid high because its likely it'll take longer than you first thought.
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Old 06-24-2013, 09:41 PM
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IMO $60 per hour on the Bobcat is too low. Around here $100 is pretty common. I would definitely use it over a dingo. If the customer is on 30 acres they will certainly let you dump somewhere so I wouldn't even consider renting a trailer for that. tell them they can save some money. if not, most places that deliver topsoil will haul off for you if you need it. My guy charges me $50 cash a truckload. I always use a hourly rate for jobs like this. Bid high because its likely it'll take longer than you first thought.
100 an hour plus the rental fees right?
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