Old 09-03-2013, 06:21 PM
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Startup chemical list - warm season turf and Zone 8/9 ornamentals

I'm trying to put together my shopping list for chemicals to make sure I've got all my bases covered. I think I've got most of what I need figured out but I'm a little unsure as to what pesticides I should include in my arsenal. I'm in the Houston, Tx area where 95% of my turf will be St Augustine, 4% will be Bermuda and the remaining 1% will be Zoysia. Ornamentals consist mainly of Crape Myrtles, Ligustrum, Oleander, Indian Hawthorne, Dwarf Yaupon Holly, Red Tip Photenia, Pittosporum, Holly and the like. Our most common issues are Fire Ants, aphids, various caterpillars, leaf miners, 2 or 3 varieties of scale, grubs and chinch bugs. So here's what I've come up with -
  • 3-Way for Pre-Emergent
  • Celsius for Post
  • ProSedge/Sedge Hammer or Dismiss for Sedge control (primarily in beds)
  • Some form of Glyphosate
  • Top Choice for ants
  • Banner for Brown Patch, etc.
What I need suggestions for are -
  • Contact insecticide for aphids, caterpillars, etc. in ornamentals
  • Contact insecticide for chinch bugs, army worm, white grubs, etc. in turf
  • Systemic insecticide for ornamentals
  • Systemic insecticide for turf
  • Something to spot treat fire ants with for those that don't want to go the Top Choice route.

I've looked at Mallet as a systemic for ornamentals and it looks like it could handle the turf as well, but would prefer something that is not a neonicotinoid, I don't know if the research about these contributing to beehive collapse is accurate or not but if there is a non-neonicotinoid insecticide available that will do the same job, it would be preference in case it is. That said, if neonicotinoids are the best choice, I need to use what works.

I appreciate any input and/or suggestions.
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Old 09-03-2013, 09:46 PM
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Chlorantraniliprole from Dupont is a non-neonicotinoid.
Three-way is not a pre-emergent.
Talk with more than one dealer--you will learn a lot. Take the dealer to lunch--and just listen--listen listen.
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Old 09-03-2013, 10:08 PM
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Thanks for the feedback.

So I guess I need Pre-Em suggestions also...

Barricade or Dimension? Something else? I'd rather not have to spray 1 Preem for broad leaf weeds and another for grassy weeds if I can get a 2 for 1.
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Old 09-04-2013, 09:23 AM
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Bifenthrin in a watering can works as a mound treatment for fire ants
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Old 09-05-2013, 07:39 PM
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Triplet lo 3 way
Barricade pre m for crab n a few broad leaf. You dont need a differ ent one for broadleaf

Permithren for contact insecticide
carbyrl (sevin) systemic

Grab a small amount of daconil for a broad range of fungicides in turf n ornamentals

Dont forget stickers and defoamers
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