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Old 09-10-2013, 12:01 AM
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Scag Z Pricing

It was deathly hot out today, lawns are fried, so decided to stop at my new local Scag dealer and check out his stock of Z's. Kept driving past when busy, but the drought is taking care of that.

At any rate, what do y'all think of this pricing. All 2013's, new unless indicated.

61" Cheetah with Kaw: $9850 (demo 10 hours)
52" Cheetah with Kaw: $8700
52" Tiger Cat: $7700

Gotta add tax to all as well.
I am not necessarily looking to buy at this instant, but having a new regular use mower and bumping my Toro over to bag only is in the works at some point.
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Old 09-10-2013, 02:22 PM
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on the 61 (SCZ61V-850FX is the model number with the 31 kaw)
thats the exact same thing as my local dealer "quoted" me via an email inquiry, I know that Scag is doing (at least according to thier website) a national promo on that model, wonder if thats the "full retail" minus promo price?

well the local one isnt a demo (at least if it is he didnt say so)
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Old 09-10-2013, 03:31 PM
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on the 61 (SCZ61V-850FX is the model number with the 31 kaw)
thats the exact same thing as my local dealer "quoted" me via an email inquiry, I know that Scag is doing (at least according to thier website) a national promo on that model, wonder if thats the "full retail" minus promo price?

well the local one isnt a demo (at least if it is he didnt say so)
Ya it has that Kaw engine.
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Old 09-10-2013, 05:09 PM
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Ya it has that Kaw engine.
They have two kawi engines, the fx 850, 27hp, and the fx921, 31 hp.in the cheetah. If its the 921 its a decent price. If its the 850, not so much of a decent price. I would test it, if its the 850 because I think that motor is underpowered for the machine
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Old 09-10-2013, 05:36 PM
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They have two kawi engines, the fx 850, 27hp, and the fx921, 31 hp.in the cheetah. If its the 921 its a decent price. If its the 850, not so much of a decent price. I would test it, if its the 850 because I think that motor is underpowered for the machine
I must have my numbers reversed, I was thinking the FX850 was the 31 kaw...do you have a link to a chart or something with the breakdown? I couldnt find the info on scags website
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Old 09-10-2013, 05:45 PM
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I must have my numbers reversed, I was thinking the FX850 was the 31 kaw...do you have a link to a chart or something with the breakdown? I couldnt find the info on scags website
Its not on scag's web site, its on kawi. Just type on kawi 850 fx engine in your browser, and the kawi engine website will pop up with all their engine specs
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Its not on scag's web site, its on kawi. Just type on kawi 850 fx engine in your browser, and the kawi engine website will pop up with all their engine specs
well crap, thanks
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Old 09-10-2013, 06:53 PM
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The FX850 was at one time rated at 31 HP. Since the class action law suit, Kawi is now rating their engines accurately. Hopefully the other brands will get on the ball and do likewise. Under the new more accurate rating system the 850 is a true 27 HP. Same power it has always had, just more accurately rated.

I have the FX850 on my JD w/60" MOD deck, and I can't understand why anyone would think it is under powered unless they regularly mow 12" grass with a machine powered by that engine.

http://kawpower.com/engines/fx
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Old 09-10-2013, 07:18 PM
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The FX850 was at one time rated at 31 HP. Since the class action law suit, Kawi is now rating their engines accurately. Hopefully the other brands will get on the ball and do likewise. Under the new more accurate rating system the 850 is a true 27 HP. Same power it has always had, just more accurately rated.

I have the FX850 on my JD w/60" MOD deck, and I can't understand why anyone would think it is under powered unless they regularly mow 12" grass with a machine powered by that engine.

http://kawpower.com/engines/fx
I had the 27 hp on my JD Z830A. Plenty of power. Demoed a Cheetah with the 850 (27hp)and it was a dog on slight grades that the JD ate up. Went with the 921 and it has plenty of power. That's why I think the 27 hp on the Cheetah is under powered, and that's all I have to say about that.
Ps, one more thing, also have the 27 HP in a JD x720 and that does fine as well
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Old 09-10-2013, 07:23 PM
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I had the 27 hp on my JD Z830A. Plenty of power. Demoed a Cheetah with the 850 (27hp)and it was a dog on slight grades that the JD ate up. Went with the 921 and it has plenty of power. That's why I think the 27 hp on the Cheetah is under powered, and that's all I have to say about that
That's interesting because there are several guys on here who run Gravely's with the H-G 5400's like the Cheetah has, and the ones who've also run the Deere 900's say that the Deere hydro's use way more engine power to run. I wonder if maybe you just happened to get a bad engine on the one you tried?
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