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Old 09-14-2013, 12:36 PM
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Lawn needs serious help!

Why do you think this lawn is in such disrepair? It didn't look this bad earlier in the year and I heard that pine needles can be acidic to the soil. Does anyone know if there is any truth to this?

Sorry.. not sure why the pictures came in sideways..
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Old 09-14-2013, 08:38 PM
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Dig around some see if there are grubs just below the surface
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Old 09-15-2013, 01:25 AM
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Old 09-15-2013, 01:29 AM
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Moles, skunks or raccoons after some grub??
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Old 09-15-2013, 11:09 AM
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There are signs of grubs being dug up,,, but the rest of the lawn just dried up and withered away... Especially evident in the median strip...
pine needles can leach acid,,, similar to the way coffee grounds do,,, but it is a short-lived change and rotted needles are no more acidic than rotted maple leaves...
Now that I know that clay's texture(platelets) has nothing to do with water infiltration, percolation, or drainage
,,, I wonder what does...
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Old 09-18-2013, 09:40 PM
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To answer your question, yes, it's difficult to grow a good healthy lawn underneath any tree that drops a lot of needles. First, because it makes the soil too acidic and second because if a tree is that big dropping tons of needles, it's also usually providing a lot of shade to the area, which just compounds the problem. Most varieties of turfgrass really don't thrive in shade. Some tolerate shade better than others. But shade never makes for a better lawn.

That said, it's hard to say from just two photos what's going on there. Just from the photos I would say it's a combination of very poor soil, needles, no sprinkler system, and lack of regular fertilization. But it's so far gone it's hard to tell if there's maybe something else going on in addition to these things. Best to call a good professional landscape installation company and they can advise you best, knowing your local conditions better than most of us here do.
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