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Old 10-08-2013, 10:27 PM
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The reason most hardscapers go out of business in my market is because there is a very small market for hardscapers only. Most landscape companies these days will take a job from the design/planning stage all the way through to when the sod is laid. Yes there will be a sub or 2 on some larger projects but for the most part people these days want one stop shopping. I don't do commercial work but that market does sometimes separate hard and softscape. Most of those jobs are for a 1/3 of what I would charge. Different strokes as they say.
Really I do not care. Nor does anyone else. This topic regards rates for engineers. Not the "market" for your services.
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Old 10-08-2013, 11:14 PM
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That's kinda an ignorant and non-productive comment. Typical of you.

It's called smart business, buy smart and sell smart. Something many can't grasp, hence the reason most hardscapers don't make it longer than 5 yrs.......
I thought the .......left it open for conversation. Our engineer is around $1200 on average to stay on topic.
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Old 10-09-2013, 05:49 PM
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I've been posting over in the irrigation forum lately. Man you all could learn a little from them. Big pissing competition over here.
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Old 10-09-2013, 06:06 PM
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I've been posting over in the irrigation forum lately.
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Where you're very welcome
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Old 10-10-2013, 03:31 AM
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Old 10-10-2013, 04:06 AM
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I've been posting over in the irrigation forum lately. Man you all could learn a little from them. Big pissing competition over here.
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The irrigation forum is more technical and is grounded in fact. Hardscape has been around since the stone ages and method and procedure can be debated and mostly is not grounded in fact in a round about way.

Irrigation is grounded on hydraulic science, electrical theory, Watts Law and Ohms Law on the electrical side. But on the other hand the pissing hear pales in comparison to some of the pissing on some audio engineering and circuit design forums I go on.

Their is nothing like 2 guys so smart they can't chew gum and walk at the same time argue about a certain mathematical formula and its impact on the final stage of a high end amplifier
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Old 10-11-2013, 05:03 PM
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My engineer (who also owns a wall business) is $500.00 ( drawn in the office with your site plan and measurements).
He will come out to the site and measure grades for you if your unsure and answer any questions or give suggestions for 200-300 extra.

If unsure about the stability of the soil, testing would be extra
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