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Old 10-09-2013, 02:34 AM
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I have been told to schedule treatments aerate dethatch and do whatever I can to make there lawn green before winter

I got 60 minutes before they call someone else though
Impatient people deserve what they get. Good lawn care is not about instant gratification. Pouring on enough fertilizer to make it green RIGHT NOW!!! at the wrong time, using the wrong material is how people get where they are .
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Old 10-09-2013, 10:02 AM
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That is the same story with these customers.
They said it looked beautiful up until July. The neighbors yards look great, but not their yard.
I was just saying in another thread how nice it would be if Extension Offices condemned the use of 'N' during certain times of the year when 'N' might actually causing damage... Like July,,, when the grass is semi-dormant from the heat or maybe completely dormant from drought...

H.O.s are looking at the TGCL types and believing that they are watching the 'experts' on lawncare... Actually they are watching 'experts' and selling unnecessary applications,,, or what I like to call, RipOffs...
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Old 10-09-2013, 10:07 AM
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I was just saying in another thread how nice it would be if Extension Offices condemned the use of 'N' during certain times of the year when 'N' might actually causing damage... Like July,,, when the grass is semi-dormant from the heat or maybe completely dormant from drought...

H.O.s are looking at the TGCL types and believing that they are watching the 'experts' on lawncare... Actually they are watching 'experts' and selling unnecessary applications,,, or what I like to call, RipOffs...
TGCL? Not sure what that means.

Don't you know? The lawn doesn't need water, it needs Nitrogen!
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Old 10-09-2013, 10:36 AM
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TGCL is the national TrueGreen ChemLawn company...

Were these lawns irrigated at the time of Application???
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Old 10-09-2013, 10:43 AM
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I always call them Trugreen only. Sorry


There is no irrigation system on any of the properties.
One of the owners did tell me that he uses a river behind his house which he has a pump hooked up to to water his lawn, which he told me he did all summer long. No idea of the accuracy or amounts though.

The others as far as I know no water.
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Old 10-09-2013, 11:25 AM
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I always call them Trugreen only. Sorry


There is no irrigation system on any of the properties.
One of the owners did tell me that he uses a river behind his house which he has a pump hooked up to to water his lawn, which he told me he did all summer long. No idea of the accuracy or amounts though.

The others as far as I know no water.
That is pretty normal... They had no business trying to stimulate top growth by stressing the dry roots... I wouldn't expect too much else to give any real indications as to the brown spots...
Cool-season grasses may get N in Late Spring , but then not again until after the Heat of Summer has passed AND there is good soil moisture again... Many non-irrigated lawns really only need a decent Winterizer as there main feed...

This year it seems that the Late August feeding could very well be my 'Winterizer' becuz I see there are still 'fertilizer prills' in the grass as I'm blowing leaves...
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Old 10-09-2013, 12:50 PM
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around these parts, its TruBrown

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I always call them Trugreen only. Sorry


There is no irrigation system on any of the properties.
One of the owners did tell me that he uses a river behind his house which he has a pump hooked up to to water his lawn, which he told me he did all summer long. No idea of the accuracy or amounts though.

The others as far as I know no water.
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Old 10-09-2013, 01:08 PM
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That is pretty normal... They had no business trying to stimulate top growth by stressing the dry roots... I wouldn't expect too much else to give any real indications as to the brown spots...
Cool-season grasses may get N in Late Spring , but then not again until after the Heat of Summer has passed AND there is good soil moisture again... Many non-irrigated lawns really only need a decent Winterizer as there main feed...

This year it seems that the Late August feeding could very well be my 'Winterizer' becuz I see there are still 'fertilizer prills' in the grass as I'm blowing leaves...
Why is fertilizer even being applied to a dried out lawn? That is just not done in my parts. Especially not on a residential lawn.
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Old 10-09-2013, 02:43 PM
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I have been contacted by 4 people so far whom use Scott's Turf Builder products themselves, Lawn Doctor Treatments, and TruGreen - everyone of there yards has giant brown spots and just looks terrible.

They all tell me normally the lawn looks great but this year everything went down hill. I will get some photo's of them and post, but I wanted to ask; has anyone else come across this and what are you doing to fix?

My first step was to get a soil test from each of the properties.
I told them to mow it at 3 1/2" (blue grass) and dropping down to 2 1/4" approximately in the later fall. Thinking about a dethatch this fall for them but not sure with the dramatic changes in weather (82 two days ago, 62 high today). My guess is they over did it with chemicals and the test will show one or more of the levels are off, but I was wondering if anyone else had feed back / similar situation.
Couldnt tell you , I was just called cause the lawns look terrible.
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Old 10-09-2013, 04:21 PM
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The company Scotts does a nice job around my immediate area and have a decent market share. They run a hell of a marketing and advertising campaign. The ad they play on the screen at Turner Field for their Turf Builder fert is pretty convincing. They have the benefit of major brand recognition since whole isles at homedepot and the like are filled with there products.
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