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Old 10-11-2013, 08:57 PM
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Walk behind or rider

We are buying a lawn care company. Some what new to the industry. I have a rookie question. The company has 3 walk behinds and one rider. Several of the contracts are not real tight mowing. It seems to me the walk behind makes more ruts than is wanted. Could someone explain the pro's and con's of each set-up?
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Old 10-11-2013, 09:05 PM
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Weight is what causes ruts. But not the only reason. Operator error. Mowing when lawn is to wet.

There are riders that weigh 500 lbs and 1,500 lbs.

I know 36 WB are in the 300 lb range. Larger ones will be more.
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Old 10-11-2013, 09:12 PM
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I should of mentioned we are in Florida, the grass always seems to wet to mow. The crew does mow to fast and we are going to work on that ASAP. As far as weight, not one of the crew weighs more than 180. Thanks for the input. In a perfect world, what are the reasons for using one or the other?
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Old 10-11-2013, 10:02 PM
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The walk behinds have a much lighter footprint and are better on hills and ditches. They leave a better cut but they cut slower. Ztr's are much more heavy but they cut a lot faster and the operator isn't beat up at the end of the day.

You say that the walk behinds leave more ruts? Do you mean that they scalp more?
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Old 10-11-2013, 10:15 PM
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The ruts are caused by the one wheel sulkey
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Old 10-11-2013, 11:10 PM
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Walk behind or rider

Get a wright stander. Especially the ZK 13.5 mph and you can do any hill. The best of both worlds. I don't have the ZK yet but I have a regular stander. 52 inch at 900 lbs. it cuts really nice and you can't see any clippings
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Old 10-12-2013, 08:31 AM
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Walk behind or rider

Weight, operator error and not changing mowing direction or pattern.

How does a 1 wheel velkie cause ruts?
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Old 10-12-2013, 08:51 AM
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How does a 1 wheel velkie cause ruts?
Bearing pressure on the soil, ... no more complex, no simpler.

I have a 36" Exmark Viking.

I have a one-wheeled Velke sitting idle because of the heavy tracking. I didn't like the single line down the middle, but, more importantly, didn't like the heavy tracking.

I moved to a two wheeled BullRider. The wheels track behind the mower wheels. This is what I wanted -- no additional lines from equipment wheels. However, I see the distinct difference of BR on, or off. Even with the two wheels, the tracking is significant. I rarely use it any longer for a variety of reasons, but one is leaving a heavy track. I can tell when I return in a week, ... did I use the BR, or just walk?

I also have a JD 717A, 48" small-frame ZTR. Despite the heavier machine, the negative impact on tracking is no different than the w/b. It has a much wider tire.

Often, my Honda hand mower is more difficult to manage in terms of tracking -- small footprint.

As others have said, how you mow with regard to direction of travel, repeated passes in the same place, etc. has a great influence on the tracking.
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Old 10-12-2013, 03:45 PM
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Very good info from everyone. Starting to see the difference between the 2 set-ups. Is it possible to get a 2 wheel sulkey for our exmark walk behinds? Also looking at the Wright pictures, it appears they have a platform, opposed to a sulkey. Are there other brands that do this?
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Old 10-12-2013, 09:34 PM
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There are lots of 2-wheeled choices,

Wright Mfg makes this one:

http://www.wrightmfg.com/products/accessories/velke-x2/

TrimmerTrap has two models,

http://www.trimmertrap.com/the-jooml...a-articles/113

http://www.trimmertrap.com/the-jooml...a-articles/112

I think Exmark makes their own 2-wheeled sulky.

And, there are many other choices.

Do a Search on LS, and you will find many threads devoted to this topic.
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