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Old 11-25-2013, 05:01 PM
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Old 11-25-2013, 06:41 PM
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Thanks DA. If the HAWKS have a good day and the cornholers have a bad day, we have a chance, but I ain't bettin' on this game.

Nuther thing regarding zero turn stand-on machines >>> wet grass, soggy soils, slopes = not a good mix.
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Old 11-25-2013, 07:23 PM
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Nuther thing regarding zero turn stand-on machines >>> wet grass, soggy soils, slopes = not a good mix.
Only if the operator doesn't know what they are doing. The front wheel lock solves any hillside issues that ztr's have.
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Old 11-25-2013, 07:37 PM
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What Z Spray are most of you running? The ZMax is a great machine; it really is but is not as versatile as the T3000i, in my opinion. I feel if you really want to compare the T to an L.T Rich product it would have to be the J36 or the J36R. The ZMax is a beast of a machine but is a lot harder to use on smaller lawns. Just a quick look at some specs on the Zmax vs the T, the Z does have the edge but with its size and capacity it has some limitations in my opinion. I do have a question for the Z guys, how do you calibrate your machine to ensure your almost always putting down the right amount of product and at the right speed? Once again I am totally biased but love to read these threads! Zero turn vs Steering wheel, well I drove a vehicle with a steering wheel to work, how about you? I love the passion you guys have! Keep it up and if anyone has questions about the T3000i please just give me a ring.

Zmax 50 gallons T 16 gallons with 3in1 tank brings it up to 31 gallons
Zmax 10ft spray T 9 ft spray
Zmax 200lb hopper T 175lb hopper
Zmax 25ft spread T 18 ft spread
Zmax 71 inches long, 54 inch wide T 65 inches long 35 Ĺ inches wide
Zmax ?lbs dry ( I couldnít find) T 500lbs dry
Zmax 8mph T 5mph
Don't know where your going on the calibration as its pretty simple and both machines are done pretty comparably.

I drove a truck with a steering wheel today also. Works pretty well on roadways designed and sized properly for such vehicles. When doing snowplowing in tight areas skidsteers out perform trucks every time do to how it has the ability to zero turn. Lawns are not roads or highways, they have tight areas. This is where a zero turn out performs a steering wheel everytime.
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Thanks DA. If the HAWKS have a good day and the cornholers have a bad day, we have a chance, but I ain't bettin' on this game.

Nuther thing regarding zero turn stand-on machines >>> wet grass, soggy soils, slopes = not a good mix.
Can put my zero turn on wet grass,soggy soils,slopes = not a problem it's all in the operator
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We bolted the speed adjustment bar in place so at full throttle the guys maxed at 5. We couldn't keep our gps units running so that was the simplest fix I could think of. If they were adjusted, welding the bar in place would have been step 2. Lol
Simplifies calibration I'd say.
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Old 11-26-2013, 02:43 PM
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We bolted the speed adjustment bar in place so at full throttle the guys maxed at 5. We couldn't keep our gps units running so that was the simplest fix I could think of. If they were adjusted, welding the bar in place would have been step 2. Lol
Simplifies calibration I'd say.
Ya I wouldn't want slop in speed setting that is for sure.
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Old 11-26-2013, 05:45 PM
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Only if the operator doesn't know what they are doing. The front wheel lock solves any hillside issues that ztr's have.
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I understand where you're coming from, and what you say makes sense to me most of the time. But I have questions >>>>

Let me get this correct....front wheel locks on ZTR's solve any hillside issues?

Then why don't all ZTR manufacturers offer front wheel locks? (I gotta call bs on this) because there are times when ZTR units have their limits compared to non-ZTR units.

I admit I am not the "sharpest knife in the drawer", but I've been in the business for over 35 years. Been running stand-on's/ride-on's since the mid 90's including hundreds of hours on ZTR's.

I am also one of those guys who never gives up until I have exhausted all options. I also prefer ZTR units in many instances, but not regarding operating a "spreader/sprayer" machine on a daily basis. Others agree too, cuz there are over 30 T3000's in my town (that I know of). I recently noticed our Scotts Lawn Care swapping out their Ground Solutions to T3000's.

I don't mean to bash Z's cuz several good friends use them...odd thing is...they are all "out of state".

Okay -- time to beat me up now
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Old 11-26-2013, 07:32 PM
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I understand where you're coming from, and what you say makes sense to me most of the time. But I have questions >>>>

Let me get this correct....front wheel locks on ZTR's solve any hillside issues?

Then why don't all ZTR manufacturers offer front wheel locks? (I gotta call bs on this) because there are times when ZTR units have their limits compared to non-ZTR units.

I admit I am not the "sharpest knife in the drawer", but I've been in the business for over 35 years. Been running stand-on's/ride-on's since the mid 90's including hundreds of hours on ZTR's.

I am also one of those guys who never gives up until I have exhausted all options. I also prefer ZTR units in many instances, but not regarding operating a "spreader/sprayer" machine on a daily basis. Others agree too, cuz there are over 30 T3000's in my town (that I know of). I recently noticed our Scotts Lawn Care swapping out their Ground Solutions to T3000's.

I don't mean to bash Z's cuz several good friends use them...odd thing is...they are all "out of state".

Okay -- time to beat me up now
Pretty sure lt rich has a patent on the castor lock.

The best way to explain how this, it makes the ztr hold a hill great is the front wheels don't start going downhill while the rear tires are trying to steer it straight.

Regular ztr front wheels start going downhill any swings the front down. The rear tires can't keep it straight. The castor lock doesn't let it head down hill.

It takes time to trust/use the castor lock but after your comfortable using it. It holds hills great. In a demo you wouldn't have the trust in it. After 20hrs its easy.
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