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Old 11-11-2013, 08:38 PM
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Hand dig a post hole into clean stone behind a wall. Good luck with that. Do it right. Use the Sleeve It. You'll be digging forever as the hole will keep collapsing.
You wrote as if we have never installed a fence next to a wall?


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Old 11-11-2013, 08:40 PM
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Sonotube will crush during compaction. If it gets wet it's also toast.
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Not exactly true. We use sonotube.
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-1 CAT hat
-16 pairs of Hanes socks (the Heavy Duty model), many with holes.
-12 pairs of underwear, ranging from Joe Boxers to Jockey, many are in need of replacement. (no more photo requests please)
-hundreds of t-shirts. Some w/ grease stains, some torn & tattered.
-7 pairs of jeans, ranging from Levis to Polo to GAP. 1/2 of them have holes in 'em.
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Old 11-11-2013, 08:58 PM
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You wrote as if we have never installed a fence next to a wall?


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Old 11-11-2013, 09:27 PM
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I didn't exactly offer advice. As with nearly all my posts, I more or less shared what we do. And do successfully.

I don't care what others do. It's not my precious profit. It's theirs.

We have probably build more residential retaining walls than most actively participating here. And I type that confidently. With fences. And not one single godly costly mechanism used.


You offered advice.


But I do love haters


Some people need to use tape when painting. Some can paint without taping. So I'm sure the godly costly mechanisms do have a place in the market. May be a good option for those that need it.
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-hundreds of t-shirts. Some w/ grease stains, some torn & tattered.
-7 pairs of jeans, ranging from Levis to Polo to GAP. 1/2 of them have holes in 'em.
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-1 pair of old worn out Nike shoes.

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Old 11-11-2013, 09:38 PM
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Please explain how YOU dig a post hole by hand in the clean stone behind a wall.
I didn't't see it in your training manual. Congratulating on the endless number of walls and patios you have under your belt.
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Old 11-11-2013, 09:46 PM
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Please explain how YOU dig a post hole by hand in the clean stone behind a wall.
I didn't't see it in your training manual. Congratulating on the endless number of walls and patios you have under your belt.
I don't think I have ever dug a posthole in my life. But that may change as I am planning to put some fencing in here at Hardscape Headquarters.

It's not complicated my friend. If you would like to have an adult conversation you may call me during the day, leave a message if I don't answer, and I will explain and we can discuss and share. And we can talk about how close a compactor is operated to a wall. (240) 674-4664.
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-16 pairs of Hanes socks (the Heavy Duty model), many with holes.
-12 pairs of underwear, ranging from Joe Boxers to Jockey, many are in need of replacement. (no more photo requests please)
-hundreds of t-shirts. Some w/ grease stains, some torn & tattered.
-7 pairs of jeans, ranging from Levis to Polo to GAP. 1/2 of them have holes in 'em.
-1 belt
-1 pair of old worn out Nike shoes.

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Old 11-11-2013, 10:03 PM
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I use 6" drain pipe, one pipe can be cut into 3 pieces. Install the pipe before you back fill. Pretty simple..and cheap.
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Old 11-12-2013, 05:54 AM
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I use 6" drain pipe, one pipe can be cut into 3 pieces. Install the pipe before you back fill. Pretty simple..and cheap.
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-16 pairs of Hanes socks (the Heavy Duty model), many with holes.
-12 pairs of underwear, ranging from Joe Boxers to Jockey, many are in need of replacement. (no more photo requests please)
-hundreds of t-shirts. Some w/ grease stains, some torn & tattered.
-7 pairs of jeans, ranging from Levis to Polo to GAP. 1/2 of them have holes in 'em.
-1 belt
-1 pair of old worn out Nike shoes.
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Old 11-12-2013, 07:10 PM
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I agree 100% with DVS, we have done many by just digging a regular hole, actually our fence contractor digs the hole. Like I stated in my earlier post, I have used sleeve it a number of times, but that has been when either the fence contractor sold it to the customer or it was speced by either an engineer or architect
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Old 11-12-2013, 07:31 PM
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Ya I'm with DVS on this aswell easy call...
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