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Old 11-20-2013, 09:12 PM
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I have had this happen to a few unit over time. But not until i had busted up a second pair of blades in them. They will last a long time if you are nice to them (im not) Got to watch out for those iron fences.
Ive never seen one with an anti tamper screw. Usually it has a hex bolt.
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Old 11-21-2013, 01:42 AM
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I began to take it apart and noticed a bolt was out. I will probably fix it but it is a tough repair. I will figure out some way to but a strap around gearbox.
Saw that missing in your first picture but figured you had taken it out to start taking this apart.. and what are you talking about an anti tamper screw?
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Old 11-21-2013, 01:43 AM
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thats an interesting point. Even though there are non articulating trimmers I would think, now that you mention it, that folding them back would create much less stress on them while bouncing on the trimmer rack.

But what about the non articulating ones?
Non-articulating ones don't have near the same weight or bounce on the gearbox as they are rigid and not as prone to flexing.
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Old 11-21-2013, 01:52 AM
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It became apparent that i won't be repairing it when i ran into the first antitamper screw and couldn't get it out. I think these damn things cost over $500, ,no more.
you could probably get this for $250 and just install the gearbox assembly onto the shaft of your AHS254 http://www.actionenginesinc.com/inde...mart&Itemid=61

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Old 11-21-2013, 02:25 AM
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Tamper-proof hardware bits are available inexpensively at harbour freight.
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Old 11-21-2013, 08:02 AM
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I began to take it apart and noticed a bolt was out. I will probably fix it but it is a tough repair. I will figure out some way to but a strap around gearbox.
Yeah, thats what I was talkin about. I made up a short brace/strap that went from the corner gearcase cover bolt to the bolt where ya got yer screwdriver.

And , as was mentioned, there aint no tamper proof hardware on them units, period!( I don't know where you come up with some of this chit!!)
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Old 11-21-2013, 02:22 PM
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you could probably get this for $250 and just install the gearbox assembly onto the shaft of your AHS254 http://www.actionenginesinc.com/inde...mart&Itemid=61
Thanks that is one option

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I have those but the screw was toooo tight stripped it.

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Yeah, thats what I was talkin about. I made up a short brace/strap that went from the corner gearcase cover bolt to the bolt where ya got yer screwdriver.

And , as was mentioned, there aint no tamper proof hardware on them units, period!( I don't know where you come up with some of this chit!!)
I don't make all this stuff up just didn't get right name..

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Now that I stripped it i almost ready to throw in the towel.
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Are these otherwise a good unit? I've heard the case comes off a homeowner hedge trimmer.

I was planning to buy one, the local dealer has a sale going on. Not sure about it anymore.
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Old 11-21-2013, 03:23 PM
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Are these otherwise a good unit? I've heard the case comes off a homeowner hedge trimmer.

I was planning to buy one, the local dealer has a sale going on. Not sure about it anymore.
Hedge trimmers, especially extended reach, get a lot of wear because of the way they have to operate. The way the back and forth motion has to be created in a light gear box is just trouble waiting to happen. I guess they could make a nice 10 pound all steel gear box and sacrifice some cutter speed.

but in reality extended reach hedge trimmers fail and it is a problem across the industry. From the stihl, echo, shindaiwa hedge trimmers I have dealt with (both my use and as parts or ones I have repaired) failed gears are common but fully cracked open gear boxes seem much more unusual.

I think extended reach hedge trimmers are all hit or miss no matter what brand

I have had the same extended reach hl75 stihl articulating hedge trimmer for at least 10 years with 0 problems but I do not use it a lot. I just shape a few trees a year with it now so its not really a fair comparison.
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Old 11-21-2013, 04:03 PM
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Thanks that is one option


I have those but the screw was toooo tight stripped it.


I don't make all this stuff up just didn't get right name..

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Now that I stripped it i almost ready to throw in the towel.
It sure looks to be a tamper proof Torx screw, with the little peg in da middle!!
I've worked on a lot of Echo stuff, and I aint never seen a TP screw on any. Prolly some moron stuck it in there!

Take a flat punch an nail it on the head, then tap yer bit in and unscrew it.
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