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Old 01-22-2014, 05:53 PM
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All great info. The big difference I see is that we pick up sticks, pine cones, and trash as we mow with the ztr. Obviously that can't be done with a wb. Walking the property first may be a little more detailed.

We run a two man crew with a 60" ztr. One mows and one trims.

Guys who have switched from that set up to two wbs how much time did it save?

Seems the equipment cost would be about the same.
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Old 01-22-2014, 06:05 PM
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We actually use the 61 ztr on our smaller properties where possible. One guy trims while the other cuts the back (gated) yard with the 36 wb. When the guy finishes trimming, he cuts the front with the ztr and whoever finishes first blows the property. I would like to get an additional 36 wb for our smaller residentials and not have to load the ztr except for the larger properties. I just like the quality of cut with the 36 mowers.
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Old 01-22-2014, 06:10 PM
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A local LCO who tried to switch their ZTRs to standers told me not to do it, apparently he said that while it saved some money they still had issues with them and employees abusing them plus a few other issues. Next year they are switching to all walk behinds.
What other issues? and how would a walk behind w.sulky be better?
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Old 01-22-2014, 06:13 PM
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What other issues? and how would a walk behind w.sulky be better?
Mostly mechanical, I did not ask into too many specifics. Them and my dealer also said that because that apparently walk behinds are more maneuverable in most applications and unless you have a lot of wide open properties, the 60 inch walk behind will be more productive. I need to go back and talk to them about it as they are always steering me towards walk behinds when I talk to them, specifically 48 inch and 60 inch Turf Tracers.

There is also lots of discussion on here about it apparently, I recently found a thread on it and wish I had it with me.
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Old 01-22-2014, 06:13 PM
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sulkies probably won't be better. the biggest problem with the standers vs. walkbehinds is the weight--they weight more than the walkbehind and then you load on an operator--with the power still begin the same engines and hydraulics will wear far faster
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Old 01-22-2014, 06:19 PM
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sulkies probably won't be better. the biggest problem with the standers vs. walkbehinds is the weight--they weight more than the walkbehind and then you load on an operator--with the power still begin the same engines and hydraulics will wear far faster
Pretty much this, they said the walk behinds last the longest too, with the crews they have at least.
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Old 01-22-2014, 06:39 PM
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Found this setup on Craigslist. What do you think its worth?

http://raleigh.craigslist.org/bfs/4296344034.html
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Old 01-22-2014, 06:44 PM
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not a bad deal but you ll really appreciate the hydro walkbehind
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Old 01-22-2014, 06:48 PM
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not a bad deal but you ll really appreciate the hydro walkbehind
This, good stuff there but get something like an Exmark Turf Tracer or Toro T2 Hydro if you want a walk behind, hydros will save you a lot of time and energy.
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Old 01-22-2014, 06:50 PM
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My only problem with the hydro walk behinds is teaching new helpers how to use them. It seems to be real hard to grasp for them, especially all the explaining "forward speed, neutral switches, what you can and cannot let go of, etc) Then you throw a sulky in there, and wow, it makes it awkward for them to turn and back up. How do you guys teach your new helpers/hires to mow with them. please respond on detail. what exactly do you do, and how do they catch on.
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