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Old 12-02-2013, 11:34 PM
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Municipal Leaf Clean-Up

Hey guys, I've tried finding a post that relates but not having much luck. My town is looking to put a burn ban in place next year restricting the burning of leaves. They are wanting to hire out for leaf pick up. I am the only landscaper in town that is vacuuming leaves currently and it sounds like they are wanting to hire me to do it. Its a town of 2k people and around 500 households. I have a dump spot lined up that's close to town and will take as much as I can bring them.

I have my charge in mind but I need some real life large scale experience from you guys. I currently have a 11hp X 6" intake leaf loader on a trailer that I have to suck the leaves back out. I am wanting to upgrade to a larger loader (like a 18" intake) and a large dump trailer. I have found used loaders for around 1,500 but no trailer with them. I can try to find a trailer or build one, steel and welding are not a problem.

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1. Do you do municipal or private pick up?

2. What size motor are you using and does it shred also?

3. How much weight are you finding per yard of leaves? Reg VS Shredded rate.

4. Should I buy used or up the cost and buy a new loader? (Getting to the point of tired of working on stuff in the middle of the season)

5. How long do you average per pick up? I know yards differ but if I'm going house to house they will differ.

6. How do the large loaders do with semi wet leaves? How about piled leaves that have been rained on?

7. What requirements would you require of the customer so it would be easiest for me and most cost effective for the city.


Thanks so much for the help guys!
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Old 12-03-2013, 12:05 AM
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1. Private pickup
2. 18 hp scag giant vac, it does shred
3. No idea what they weigh (heavier then i thought leaves would be)
4. Buy new, loaders get beat up from regular use. A used loader could easily be abused and damaged from improper maintenance .
5. Most of our clean up jobs take about 1-2hrs for 2 guys. Just loading time is probably 15-30 min average.
6. Wet leaves are not too bad with mine. Pine needles are harder then wet leaves. Sucking up sticks are the only thing that causes my loader to clog up. Wet leaves suck up fine just a little slower.
7. I would make requirements for distance from curb, no sticks in the leaves, and absolutely no rocks in the leaves.
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Old 12-03-2013, 12:22 AM
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Baileylawnservice,

thanks for the input, do you remember when you bought your giant vac what the shred weight was? also whats your intake size on that? and thankfully im only doing pile pick up, not full leaf service on the cities dime.
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Old 12-03-2013, 01:49 AM
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What is shred weight
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Old 12-03-2013, 01:50 AM
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Sorry didn't mean shred weight, ment to say shred ratio.
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Old 12-03-2013, 01:50 AM
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Check out their website. http://www.giant-vac.com/truckloaders.html
Lots of info on the different models
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Old 12-03-2013, 01:53 AM
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They don't advertise a reduction ratio. I can tell you from experience it's different with different leaves. Maple and pecan leaves turn to dust, where oak and sycamore look like they have not been touched (sometimes).
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Old 12-03-2013, 01:56 AM
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I know what you mean, mine currently doesn't have an 'official' shred ratio but like yours it shreds some varites. I have seen newer motors advertise a 12:1 shred ratio. From what mine shreds now that would be absolute dust shredded that much. The weight would be unbelievable per yard.
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Old 12-03-2013, 05:32 PM
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Bump...anyone else able to help on this issue??
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Old 12-03-2013, 07:19 PM
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You are going to want something similar to this if you plan to do this efficiently.
http://www.odbco.com/products/scl800tm.htm

Most towns use ODB leaf loaders. They either use these dump trailer ones or just the vacuum and blow it into a large truck. They are built very well and will hold up to the beating of curbside pickup. You are going to need something with a lot of suction and a big hose. This will pick up wet leaves and wont clog. You might be able to find a used one on ebay. I know there is one on craigslist not to far from me.
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