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Old 03-25-2014, 10:55 PM
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Important Estimate Help - Roughly 6500 Linear Feet of Garden/Bed Edging Quote?

This is my 2nd year of operating and owning my own business (24 years old). I am a very hard worker, and things have been going well my first two years in the industry. I am currently working on an estimate for a Farm roughly 26 Miles away from my location. This is by far the biggest potential job of my career, so I need to be PERFECT with this quote. I'm not quite sure where to start.. Hoping someone can give me a lead. Heres the following information. The Owner wants a Spring Clean Up & Edging.. with possible Mulching in the future. This project will be split into 5 Phases.

Roughly 6,000-7,000 Linear Feet of Edging

Spring Clean Up- Some beds are pretty clean and some are filthy... I didn't take measurements of the beds since there were so many, and my measuring wheel broke on-site, but the owner told me in the past he has had to order roughly 850-1000 cubic yards of mulch to cover all the beds.. Hope that helps. Please let me know or email me at corbin.nicholl@yahoo.com

Im hoping to have a crew of 5 Employees.


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Old 03-25-2014, 11:05 PM
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That's a lot of mulch! Like 12-15 tractor trailer loads of mulch.
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Old 03-26-2014, 12:33 AM
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This is my 2nd year of operating and owning my own business (24 years old). I am a very hard worker, and things have been going well my first two years in the industry. I am currently working on an estimate for a Farm roughly 26 Miles away from my location. This is by far the biggest potential job of my career, so I need to be PERFECT with this quote. I'm not quite sure where to start.. Hoping someone can give me a lead. Heres the following information. The Owner wants a Spring Clean Up & Edging.. with possible Mulching in the future. This project will be split into 5 Phases.

Roughly 6,000-7,000 Linear Feet of Edging

Spring Clean Up- Some beds are pretty clean and some are filthy... I didn't take measurements of the beds since there were so many, and my measuring wheel broke on-site, but the owner told me in the past he has had to order roughly 850-1000 cubic yards of mulch to cover all the beds.. Hope that helps. Please let me know or email me at corbin.nicholl@yahoo.com

Im hoping to have a crew of 5 Employees.


Thank You All
do you guys with no experience in the business, and no idea how to bid, actually realize that you smell like fresh meat to these dudes that ask you to bid these things?
They are hoping and praying for you newbs, wanting to take advantage of you, knowing full well you're likely to get over eager and waaaaaay underbid it.

You DO know that's why you are even asked to bid it right??

With that in mind, why even entertain doing the job at all?

just let it go
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Old 03-26-2014, 12:35 AM
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That's a lot of mulch! Like 12-15 tractor trailer loads of mulch.
Perfect candidate to use a mulch blower… i couldn't even imagine doing this with out one (I mean I know jobs this size were done before the invention…but… well you know what I mean)
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Old 03-26-2014, 07:53 AM
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do you guys with no experience in the business, and no idea how to bid, actually realize that you smell like fresh meat to these dudes that ask you to bid these things?
They are hoping and praying for you newbs, wanting to take advantage of you, knowing full well you're likely to get over eager and waaaaaay underbid it.

You DO know that's why you are even asked to bid it right??

With that in mind, why even entertain doing the job at all?

just let it go
That's a very negative way to look at things.

If you want to know your production rate, call your favorite client and ask if you can edge their beds for free. Time you and the crew. Measure the amount of linear feet you did. Figure your feet per minute. Calculate how long you will take to do 6500 and multiply by your hourly rate. Pretty simple.

I could tell you what we charge for a property that size but we would grab the walker and bedshaper attachment and be done before you even stopped all the edges by hand.

Some successful entrepreneurs, myself included, like to help those starting out. Don't write this off as just someone wanting a deal
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Old 03-26-2014, 08:31 AM
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1000 yards of mulch?

Sounds like fun!

What kind of mulch? Can you dispose of the cleanup debris on site or do you have to haul it away? What kind of equipment do you have? How many people will be working on this project?

Need more info...
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Old 03-26-2014, 09:13 AM
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This is my 2nd year of operating and owning my own business (24 years old). I am a very hard worker, and things have been going well my first two years in the industry. I am currently working on an estimate for a Farm roughly 26 Miles away from my location. This is by far the biggest potential job of my career, so I need to be PERFECT with this quote. I'm not quite sure where to start.. Hoping someone can give me a lead. Heres the following information. The Owner wants a Spring Clean Up & Edging.. with possible Mulching in the future. This project will be split into 5 Phases.

Roughly 6,000-7,000 Linear Feet of Edging

Spring Clean Up- Some beds are pretty clean and some are filthy... I didn't take measurements of the beds since there were so many, and my measuring wheel broke on-site, but the owner told me in the past he has had to order roughly 850-1000 cubic yards of mulch to cover all the beds.. Hope that helps. Please let me know or email me at corbin.nicholl@yahoo.com

Im hoping to have a crew of 5 Employees.


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This your 2nd season, you know what you charge per hour .
Alot of times a person can prep a 1 yard area in 1 hour.
your already playen in the 850 - 1000 hours .

Then when and if you mulch the place, another 850 - 1000 hours .

Hope you have a crew .. thats alot of hours spent on 1 property.
You may even want consider adding hours .
to cover any overtime , just to get the job done .
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Old 03-26-2014, 09:25 AM
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1 yard an hour for prep? Stop it. Just stop.

1 yard an hour to spread? Insanity.

Also, you aint doing 1000 yards by hand.
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Old 03-26-2014, 10:01 AM
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Get your price to prep beds then sub the mulch out to a blower service.
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Old 03-26-2014, 10:21 AM
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1 yard an hour for prep? Stop it. Just stop.

1 yard an hour to spread? Insanity.

Also, you aint doing 1000 yards by hand.
Thats just a ball park area . most places i have been to. i can prep a 1 yard area in 1 hour. put a trimmer or edger in my hands. i go in a zone . i out there all by myself . i got nobody to be talking to me . slowing me down .

It is hard to come up with quote with out seeing the property .

my thinking is, the farm should just hire someone for 40 hours a week .
Even at $30 a hour x 1000 there looking $ 30.000 just to prep .

And i hit it for another $30,000 for spreadings 1000 yards of mulch .

Looking at a $60,000 job

The machine is there for you to do a job faster to make profit .
By the time i go rent a blower to blow the mulch , cutting my hours .
It will still keep me in the ball park

The machine is there to help you ..It kinda like mowing a lawn .
If you are doin a property,, for $30 a week with a 21 inch mower .
and you made enough money to buy a 36 inch walk behind , and your doin the same lawn in half the time . are you really goin to lower there price ?
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