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Old 03-16-2003, 08:54 PM
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One last try

I really need that .05. Could you be refering to Nickle. Cause if I've heard right some folks think it is used with the urease enzyme to break down urea into ammonium and carbon dioxide preventing toxic levels of urea to accumulate in legumes. In grains I think it has been shown to be esential for certain enzymes which are involved grain filling and seed vialiblilty. Man you sure do make a guy work for a .05.
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Old 03-16-2003, 09:09 PM
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Congragulation Russ


That big big hint really worked. However Why didn't I include it in my element list and why don't commercial fertilizer companies offer it.

Re read the rules I can't send you a penny for your answer at this point it is a two part question
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Old 03-16-2003, 09:34 PM
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You won the nickel. The reason I didn't list Nickel is because it is still not certain what its use by plant is. It is still more of a research issue and amount used by plants is so small that supplement is not needed. Therefore commercial fertilizer companies will more than likely never offer it. Nickel is the newest fertilizer element being discovered in 1989 as a element of nutrition. I have had respect for your posts in the past and give you credit for coming forward on this one. Nickel is a little known element and at the time I wrote about fertilizer (Copy& paste above) I didn't know about it. However in another forum a member said there were 17 elements needed by plants I posted he won the nickel and I think he and I were the only ones to know.
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Old 03-16-2003, 09:53 PM
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Thanks Ric

You hold on to my Nickel. I'm coming down to get that nickel in a couple of years. I really thought the reason you were looking for in the app. cos. not using it was the heavy metal liability. PM me if you would on the other site.
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Old 03-17-2003, 10:01 PM
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I just found a book that covers some of the chemistry, including the essential elements, at least briefly...you could not tell by the title.

The title is "Picture Perfect" by Mellor. The author was the guy in charge of making all those neat lines in fenway Park.

thank you for your kind responses.

And here is my trivia question

what is %WIN in a fertilizer label?
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Old 03-18-2003, 09:36 AM
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%WIN= the amount of Water Insoluble Nitrogen

I dont know much about it but these guys do

http://www.agronomy.psu.edu/Extensio...MaintFert.html
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Old 03-18-2003, 08:54 PM
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Correct, Win is H2O insoluble Nitrogen.
Win are generally slow release nitrogen, as opposed to the salts that are quick release nitrogen.

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Old 03-19-2003, 09:11 PM
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what is csrn?
what is hwin?
Give a n source for each.
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Old 03-20-2003, 08:54 AM
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You have me. CNR =Critical Nuttrient Range or Carbon Nitrogen Ratio. CRF Controlled Release Fertilizer.

CSRN= Controlled Slow Release Nitrogen?? Urea Formaldehyde as form of nitrogen?? but I am Guessing.

HWIN ?? I am still thinking on. Oops Hot Water Insoluble Nitrogen. I am used to seeing CWIN = Cold Water Insoluble Nitrogen. U or UF is the Nitrogen form
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Old 03-20-2003, 11:12 AM
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RIC,

Was hoping you where off line cause I knew you have the answer!!

CSRN is controlled slow release nitrogen . EXAMPLE IS ?? somebody besides RIC

HWIN is hot water insoluble nitrogen example was uf, or nitroform (urea formaldehyde)sp.?

Now how long for HWIN in uf to release and the mechanism for releasing? Keep quite for awhile RIC.
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