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Old 01-24-2014, 10:27 PM
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Thats a recipe to get burnt out
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LOL I posted that shortly afterwards, I was doing 43/week solo for about a month and said hell with it ain't worth it and hired a helper, LOL
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Old 01-24-2014, 10:50 PM
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LOL I posted that shortly afterwards, I was doing 43/week solo for about a month and said hell with it ain't worth it and hired a helper, LOL
On paper its a perfect scenario.

Everybody has their own views. That is something I just Dont agree with. I Dont want a job. I want a business. With that many lawns being decently priced, I'd be out of the field.

I'd be willing to take a pay cut and everything. Hell I'm planning to have two full times at 50 properties
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Old 01-24-2014, 11:05 PM
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On paper its a perfect scenario.

Everybody has their own views. That is something I just Dont agree with. I Dont want a job. I want a business. With that many lawns being decently priced, I'd be out of the field.

I'd be willing to take a pay cut and everything. Hell I'm planning to have two full times at 50 properties
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I'm going part time this year, we're up to almost 50 maint accounts now, but we've got the install side going strong, I'm going to start the season with one full time guy on maint and see if he can handle it, I'm guessing I'll have to jump in at least one or two days a week, I really want to focus on getting the cash built up this season, we spent a lot of money last year getting the install crew going.
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Old 01-24-2014, 11:16 PM
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That will be impressive if you can pull it off.
Why not consider you both working together?
One truck burning fuel and I bet together you can get more done then separate.
Could never cover the ground in that same time span with just the one truck idea. As a two man crew we see 750-900 a day as one man crews we see 550-650 a day each. So the reason is to maximize the income and a 1 man crew is by definition the most efficient you can have.
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Old 01-25-2014, 09:02 AM
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Could never cover the ground in that same time span with just the one truck idea. As a two man crew we see 750-900 a day as one man crews we see 550-650 a day each. So the reason is to maximize the income and a 1 man crew is by definition the most efficient you can have.
WHAT? 550-650 a day! that's ludicrous! Hopefully you mean 55-65 a day? even then, one man can't do that much in one day? One week maybe?
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Old 01-25-2014, 09:03 AM
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It's ashame to drop off so many accounts and two employees.
I assume that you and your partner each worked with 1 employee each.
If that's the case I would expect that you will complete 40% less work per week.(you used to cut 200 lawns now only 120)
Using generic numbers
200 lawns @ 40 = 8000 weekly
160@40= $6400 weekly
Payroll two employees based on 3 ten hour days last year @ $12 with tax and workmans comp lets say $15 per hour. For a total cost of $900
To save $450 each for you and your partner.
You each have to do 100% of the work on your individual routes.
23 lawns @ $40 is what your payroll costs.
From experience performing lawn service solo, two man or 3 man crew
I could net $x solo
With I man I could net $x + 20k
With 3 man I could net $x + 30k
With 2 man crew I run business, jump in if needed and still net the original $x
If I am hurt or tired or with a customer $ still being generated.
I think that you estimates could be high (lawns per week solo)for what you and your partner expect to achieve.

What you are doing is doable ,things to consider in no specific order.
Rain
Heat
Injuries
Estimates ( any time you are not working 50% less work is being completed.)

The added work load working separately and solo could impact your relationship with your partner if either of you get burnt out and then start to believe the. Other is not pulling thir weight.
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Old 01-25-2014, 09:20 AM
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I guess I'm missing a piece of the puzzle here, there is no way you can do 200 lawns a week with a one man crew not even a two man crew, are there like 50 at a time in one neighborhood? are they postage stamp lawns? doing just mow and go work? We do full service in upscale area's, so the numbers y'all are talking are mind boggling.
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Old 01-25-2014, 09:45 AM
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He said two 2 man crews working 3 days to cut 200 lawns.

Now they are gonna try to do 160 with two 1 man crews in 4 days
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Old 01-25-2014, 09:52 AM
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Could never cover the ground in that same time span with just the one truck idea. As a two man crew we see 750-900 a day as one man crews we see 550-650 a day each. So the reason is to maximize the income and a 1 man crew is by definition the most efficient you can have.
A one man crew is not the most efficient you can have.

A two man crew is. The whole argument about paying drive time and everything else is irrevelant. You will never come close to the same production day in and day out the whole season.

You'll get burnt out trying to do what Youre saying you're going to do.
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Old 01-25-2014, 09:53 AM
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He said two 2 man crews working 3 days to cut 200 lawns.

Now they are gonna try to do 160 with two 1 man crews in 4 days
I'm not seeing it happen.maybe two, two man crews doing 160 in four days?
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