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Old 02-17-2014, 07:24 PM
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For popular rotors, I'm not seeing that. I can make more money per PGP rotor replaced, versus a 5000, so I may continue to favor them.
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This is a strange thing to be mad at a manufacturer for.
I'm not mad at anyone, my point was just that it seemed like incompetent marketing, from where I sit. (We don't buy based off list price)
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I think the HV might also be a testing ground for a (slightly) different construction. Different solenoid. Different diaphragm design.
You are exactly correct Boots.
Check out the spec page from the Rain Bird America
http://www.rainbird.com/landscape/pr.../valves/HV.htm

And the spec page from the Rain Bird Europe
http://www.rainbird.eu/5-6325-Fiche-...d_produits=333


Look at the difference in the electrical specs. Inrush amps, holding amps and the resistance are all different.(note both are given at 60hz) This valve was released in America on 4-30-12 and in Europe on 5-29-12. And so far one person posted using them only because they got them for free. Nice marketing job Rain Bird.
Well I guess we all know were all the HV valves will end up – Home cheapo

Also note that Rain Bird Europe does not offer any slip valves.
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Old 02-20-2014, 02:09 AM
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You are exactly correct Boots.
Check out the spec page from the Rain Bird America
http://www.rainbird.com/landscape/pr.../valves/HV.htm

And the spec page from the Rain Bird Europe
http://www.rainbird.eu/5-6325-Fiche-...d_produits=333


Look at the difference in the electrical specs. Inrush amps, holding amps and the resistance are all different.(note both are given at 60hz) This valve was released in America on 4-30-12 and in Europe on 5-29-12. And so far one person posted using them only because they got them for free. Nice marketing job Rain Bird.
Well I guess we all know were all the HV valves will end up – Home cheapo

Also note that Rain Bird Europe does not offer any slip valves.

24 VAC 50/60 Hz (cycles/sec.) solenoid
Inrush current: 0.290 A at 60 Hz
Holding current: 0.091 A at 60 Hz
Coil resistance: 70-85 Ohms
(40° F - 110° F)

This will spark a new line of electrical troubleshooting questions.



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Old 02-20-2014, 10:44 AM
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Old 02-20-2014, 11:28 AM
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24 VAC 50/60 Hz (cycles/sec.) solenoid
Inrush current: 0.290 A at 60 Hz
Holding current: 0.091 A at 60 Hz
Coil resistance: 70-85 Ohms
(40° F - 110° F)

This will spark a new line of electrical troubleshooting questions.



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Old 02-20-2014, 02:27 PM
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The solenoid intrigues me, since it would allow for maybe an additional valve per zone on some controllers. The diaphragm, sight unseen, is probably a beaded-edge design like so many others, which could make for a lower cost of manufacture.
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Old 02-20-2014, 11:40 PM
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The solenoid intrigues me, since it would allow for maybe an additional valve per zone on some controllers. The diaphragm, sight unseen, is probably a beaded-edge design like so many others, which could make for a lower cost of manufacture.
Educate me Boots. Who exactly is the manufacturer of "some" controllers?
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Old 02-21-2014, 12:02 AM
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Them guys, who else?
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Old 02-21-2014, 12:23 AM
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