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Old 03-08-2014, 11:28 AM
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In Texas I think you can get shot for just being on someone's property. Be careful. I'm pretty sure even the post office can't do that.

When you say "I walk only on driveways" I think you mean your laborers. You can't bill those hours.
No offense, but you seem to be a little confused.

Policies, rules, regulations and laws that govern what a postal employee can and can not do while working for the postal service has no bearing on what a private citizen can and can't do.

You can get shot for walking on someone's property no matter where the property is located. However, it is just as illegal for the property owner to murder me in Texas as it is for a property owner to murder you in Maryland.

And when I say "I walk only on driveways and walkways. I do not cut across people's yards…not even a little bit." I mean exactly that…When I am out placing door hangers and I step onto someone's property, I walk only on driveways and walkways.
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Old 03-09-2014, 03:19 PM
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First impressions count. I wouldn't want anyone thinking I was too lazy to walk to the front door. They might think that someone who cuts corners by hanging flyers with the lease amount of effort as possible might also service their property with the least amount of effort and try to cut corners. That is why my door hangers get hung on doors, not mailboxes.
People do not want strangers walking up to their doors. You are stepping onto private property.

You walk up to their door you set off their dogs. They have to calm down their dog. You just made yourself a pain in their butt.

Placing a flyer on a mail box shows you respect their privacy and know how to conduct business in a professional manner.
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Old 03-09-2014, 03:24 PM
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So strange to read how often this becomes a "yes, you can./no, you can't." debate.

Via the USPS web site:
"No part of a mail receptacle may be used to deliver any matter not bearing postage, including items or matter placed upon, supported by, attached to, hung from, or inserted into a mail receptacle. Any mailable matter not bearing postage and found as described above is subject to the same postage as would be paid if it were carried by mail."

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If you have a curbside mailbox or a mailbox on the outside of your house, Postal Service regulations govern what can and can not be placed in them. Generally speaking, only mail that has been sent through the USPS may be placed in these types of receptacles. Conversely, USPS regulations do not govern what can be placed in a mail slot on your door. This means that if a local business wants to put a flyer in the mail slot, they can do so.

Source: USPS.com (they've changed their web site, so search here for "flyers".)

Yes I have read the USPS regs before this thread appeared. Though when a mailman tells me I will be okay to place on the outside of the box I am not going to worry.
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Old 03-09-2014, 03:28 PM
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Well that would add some clarity but you did not include that in your previous post which may add to the enigma and why we can't get to the bottom of this issue.

While I am sure the legalese is written in some cryptic fine print somewhere, my interpretation is:

1. In the mailbox is 100% off limits (even if the door is open)
2. Putting things on the flag is technically off limits and annoys the heck out of the mailman
3. The post, while maybe technically off limits, is fair game and no one cares
4. The door of the house is on-limits but requires a ton more leg work and could irk the homeowners.
Mailman told me sticking a flyer between the flag and the box is ok.
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Old 03-09-2014, 03:48 PM
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Mailman told me sticking a flyer between the flag and the box is ok.
Even if one USPS route guy says its ok, the next guy may not and turn you in. If they fine you its an equivalent of 2 first class stamps for ever piece you put out. That's about a buck a piece and that can get pricey. At least that's what it was 15 years ago
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Old 03-09-2014, 03:55 PM
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Would you want anyone besides the mail carrier touching your mailbox? A lot of mail theft goes on around here.
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Old 03-09-2014, 03:59 PM
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Placing a flyer on a mail box shows you respect their privacy and know how to conduct business in a professional manner.

Wow!! I've heard it all now.
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Old 03-09-2014, 04:02 PM
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If a mail carrier turns you in you will have a permanent file with the post master. If there is ever any mail fraud in the area you will be investigated. My advice stay the heck away from the mailbox it is a federal offence!
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Old 03-09-2014, 04:08 PM
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Mailman told me sticking a flyer between the flag and the box is ok.
Your mail carrier gave you bad advice.
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Old 03-09-2014, 04:21 PM
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Hanging hangers does such when the dog goes berserk. Also when the home owner is just a prick.
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