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Old 03-23-2014, 12:40 PM
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Machines to clear Tines/Scarifacation debris

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Is there such a machine, which effectivley clears hollow tines and heavy moss/thatch debris which is left behind by scarifyers and hollow tining machines?

on a daily basis i visit many lawns, performing hollow tining/scarifying.

raking and bagging is the most time consuming part of the day.

i was wondering if there is anything you guys can reccomened which clears this kind of debris? which is small enough to fit in a van and to get around the average 100-200 meter lawn?

thanks.
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Old 03-23-2014, 12:46 PM
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somthing that basicly scoops up into a bag to save me raking it all manually.

i have seen basic push lawn sweepers

but i am not sure if they will be able to cope with this degree of debris
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Old 03-23-2014, 12:50 PM
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somthing that basicly scoops up into a bag to save me raking it all manually.

i have seen basic push lawn sweepers

but i am not sure if they will be able to cope with this degree of debris
If I understand the question correctly, you're looking for something to pick up thatch and cores left on the lawn after treatment? Couldn't you use a mower with a bagger to pick it all up? I haven't ever de-thatched/aerated but most guys use a bag mower to pick up thatch debris, and usually leave cores to decompose or run over them with a mulch mower to grind them up and return them to the soil on top.

Edit: this information I only know from reading / watching what other guys on LS have posted. As I said, I haven't done de-thatching or aerating yet as I'm a new business
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Old 03-23-2014, 01:02 PM
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If I understand the question correctly, you're looking for something to pick up thatch and cores left on the lawn after treatment? Couldn't you use a mower with a bagger to pick it all up? I haven't ever de-thatched/aerated but most guys use a bag mower to pick up thatch debris, and usually leave cores to decompose or run over them with a mulch mower to grind them up and return them to the soil on top.

Edit: this information I only know from reading / watching what other guys on LS have posted. As I said, I haven't done de-thatching or aerating yet as I'm a new business
yes, after treatment somthing to collect thatch/cores

a mower won't touch the cores, and trying to mow over the removed thatch/moss causes the bag to fill in about 2 seconds, and only ever picks up a very small percentage of the debris, the rest is just kicked out to the side of the mower.

my current method is;

1) rake into lots of little piles
2) use large leaf collector claws to grab large amounts at once
3) throw into big ton bags

i have had a few jobs where i have filled up over 30 ton bags of moss/thatch!

i would say 80% of the hard work right now is bagging and raking.

i real back breaker!

idealy i need somthing with the power to collect, and a large enough capacity to make it worthwhile, along with being convienient enough to use on average domestic lawns
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Old 03-23-2014, 01:10 PM
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I can imagine its rough to pick all that up by hand. Like I said, my info is only from what I've read. I've seen guys post pictures/videos of using a de-thatcher then a large ZT mower with a bagging system to pick up the thatch debris. Always seems to work out okay, but maybe its because they are larger machines with more power. I can see a push mower getting bogged down really quick if there's a lot of thatch debris. The guys who mention mulching the cores usually say they core-aerate and leave the cores to dry for a few hours/days, then come back later and mulch them once they're dry and light weight. Again, I'm new to the industry so I don't have experience doing this practice. Just reading.

Good luck thought, I hope you can find a better method! My leaf jobs consist of a lot of raking/manual bagging and I know how tiring and back-breaking it can be!
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Old 03-23-2014, 05:45 PM
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Hello.

Is there such a machine, which effectivley clears hollow tines and heavy moss/thatch debris which is left behind by scarifyers and hollow tining machines?

on a daily basis i visit many lawns, performing hollow tining/scarifying.

raking and bagging is the most time consuming part of the day.

i was wondering if there is anything you guys can reccomened which clears this kind of debris? which is small enough to fit in a van and to get around the average 100-200 meter lawn?

thanks.
You are talking about aerating

I have seen ones that mount on a ez go cart that golf courses use but the only thing that I know of is a shove and rake that will fit in a van.

So if you remove dirt from a lawn every day wont the lawns get ?
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Old 03-24-2014, 09:54 PM
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I know core aerating is better, but I would go with a solid tine aerator versus having to clean up all the plugs. The plugs should be left, but I know that some clients don't like the look.
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Old 03-24-2014, 10:33 PM
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I know core aerating is better, but I would go with a solid tine aerator versus having to clean up all the plugs. The plugs should be left, but I know that some clients don't like the look.
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Glad someone else said this. I have a power rake dethatch overseed combo here in a bit. The plan is to low mow down to 1.5" with G6 gators and full side discharge once verticut with seeder bar only instead of flail blades along with seed. Make 2-3 passes with my plugr 850 [equivalent of 6-8 passes with a rolling tine unit...let plugs dry a tad...mulch plate mow with G6 blades and break up all those plugs back down on the lawn. Let frost heave and spring rains take it from there.
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