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Old 04-08-2014, 07:28 PM
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Nah...no stick needed, just a referral to DVS's personal search box.
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Old 04-08-2014, 07:51 PM
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a couple years ago I offer the powers to be at this site to get a sticky started for frequently asked questions. Its a winter project, busy now.
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Old 04-08-2014, 08:08 PM
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n. 10x10 is pretty small for a skid steer to dig.
n. my guys would have it hand dug by the time I got the machine off the trailer
n. the intent of business is to make a profit, let go of the ego
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Old 04-08-2014, 08:59 PM
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Yeah I was just going to say the same thing DVS, I'd have that area dugout by hand by the time the equipment was unloaded at the job by 10-11am.
Just starting out? Over estimate and over think everything.
Figure out where you need to be hourly with yourself and a helper if you have one. For each job sit down and figure out each and every piece of material you need, again over estimate a little bit.
Sit down and figure out step by step your installation. Example: 1st (8 hour) day to dig out the area and prep with crushed stone, possibly get first screed down. 2nd (8 hour) day screed and lay pavers, cut if needed, edging, sanding, tamping and so on.
Just don't short yourself.
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Old 04-08-2014, 09:37 PM
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n. 10x10 is pretty small for a skid steer to dig.
n. my guys would have it hand dug by the time I got the machine off the trailer
n. the intent of business is to make a profit, let go of the ego
^^^^Agree^^^^
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Old 04-08-2014, 10:42 PM
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Since the thread is shot,

You guys who show up with the ex only, when you barrow to the front you dump in the street, then take the ex up front and load the truck? Or am i missing something?

I would almost rather dig by hand, barrow it to the front and dump it in the skid bucket then load the truck. Am i crazy? Or do i need to get a bigger trailer and bring both?
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Old 04-08-2014, 10:50 PM
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We're doing a very small hardscape / landscape job this week.

We are hand digging. But we're using the compact tractor with loader to move the excavated soil and using it to load the soil on the dump truck. Skid steer would be way too destructive.
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Old 04-08-2014, 11:23 PM
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Since the thread is shot,

You guys who show up with the ex only, when you barrow to the front you dump in the street, then take the ex up front and load the truck? Or am i missing something?

I would almost rather dig by hand, barrow it to the front and dump it in the skid bucket then load the truck. Am i crazy? Or do i need to get a bigger trailer and bring both?
That's what I struggle with

I already have a tractor but it won't load a full dump truck. And the bucket is tiny
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Old 04-08-2014, 11:31 PM
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I think this is why im buying a dump trailer, run the barrows right in the back. 90% of my jobs have 4' access to the back and they all have established nice landscapes so it needs to be low impact. Thats why i bought the tb016 but i really want a 30/36" smooth edge bucket for patios and loading the truck. Cant throw a ton of money in it now though. Needs a thumb too.
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Old 04-08-2014, 11:35 PM
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You guys crack me up sometimes. Let's face it, owning equipment sucks. A small tractor can accomplish most of the tasks the skid and mini ex can do at what 1/10th the cost? My co-petitor (not competitor we work together on a lot of projects) just bought a $65k bobcat skid/4 wheel steer something or another. I literally laughed in his face. it's perfect for me because if I ever need it I just hire it out at an hourly rate at way less than I can buy or rent it for. It's perfect for me.

I get it, skids are fast, mini ex's are efficient. Unless you are doing huge projects (1000 sq ft or so) you don't need all that equipment. Yeah it helps but your not making money owning all that equipment unless you are like Zedo, TomG, Rusk, etc. And let's face it, most of us are not at that level.

For example, I just landed a 3500 sq ft patio project that I'm building with a 29 horse Kubota tractor. You know why? Because I'm making money with that stupid tractor! Yeah it sucks not being able to move pallets with it but if I need a skid for a week I'll rent it then send it back to the dealer on fumes and let him service it.

For all you new guys, it's not about owning stuff, it's about making money. Making money is awesome!
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