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Old 04-03-2014, 06:59 AM
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2014 TDR, Large locate 50 + valves

This is a large estate I have been to a few times last year. Most recently to locate a few stuck valves at the blow out. My supervisor sold a 2 day locate to find all valves on site.
Here is a little site data:

2 Hunter Icc's.
Each clock has it's own 2 horse well dedicated on a pump start relay.
Total irrigated property maybe 2-2.5 acres.
1 inch poly main on both clocks.
Mostly hunter valves, on the older clock some irritrol 2400T's.
Dura manifold fittings .
There is a garage, main house, mess house, studio (all of which are bigger than my house).
Easily a 1000 amp service running down the middle of the property underground, also landscape lighting, generator service running across 80 % of the first clock underground as well.
Almost all valves located thus far are 6-8 inches underground some under hardscapes.
We have a zone ledger, and as stated I know where a few boxes are located.



I will post my direct results later today after I gather all my data, here is a few pics around 85% of the valves are located.

Messy clock make it difficult. If there is time left on job I will re wire.
I cleaned up the rain sensor yesterday, and gave all commons a direct port.Very hack. No I didn't install this system.


Best find so far, under my toes is 3 valves


Yuck


task at hand


On the big locates I'm going to start marking exact locations of valves with a sharpe

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Old 04-03-2014, 09:02 AM
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Just one question, if you're marking the lids, what happens if the lid gets rotated 180 degrees?
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Old 04-03-2014, 09:57 AM
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Just one question, if you're marking the lids, what happens if the lid gets rotated 180 degrees?
Use compass directions Capt.
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Old 04-03-2014, 11:36 AM
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Use compass directions Capt.
I was filling out the inside-cover label on a new controller with zone descriptions and running times, said descriptions having compass directions, for the sake of brevity. All done, I read it over, considered a moment, and added the words "You are facing West" above the descriptions. Good thing, too, since the homeowner asked "You mean this isn't facing North?" I pointed out the nearby window at the approaching twilight sky, and observed that the sun still sets in the West.
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Old 04-03-2014, 12:13 PM
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Some shrink wrap would help manage the cluster of commons Eddie. That and using standard wire nuts in the box to save space. Rewiring a mess usually takes longer than wiring an install cleanly in the first plac, plan accordingly



What method did you use with this locate Ed?
Were each wire path consistent with the their station assignments?
How did you use the TDR information in the locate?
Was it accurate or just ballpark?
Since you had a ledger to work with, were you able to compare TDR measurements with known locations to minimize tracing time?
You have a lot of experience with a locator and have been using the TDR for a couple of years now so I was wondering how often you're using it, how you're using it when locating and if you think it's as valueable as I think they are?
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Old 04-05-2014, 09:55 AM
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Just one question, if you're marking the lids, what happens if the lid gets rotated 180 degrees?
Index the lid and you will know if it was rotated
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Old 04-06-2014, 07:52 AM
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Just one question, if you're marking the lids, what happens if the lid gets rotated 180 degrees?

Later on I wrote Ocean right ------>

And then House left <-----------------


made sense to me...

my data is at the shop jim...will bring it home today..
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Old 04-06-2014, 09:28 AM
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good lord what a mess!

those valve boxes look pretty deep, covered with years of mulch
they were proabably set too low in the first place, and full of dirt!

Tie That Rain Sensor Cable To The Rain Sensor Terminals!!
Why do people cut the common in the clock instead of utilizing the sensor
terminals??
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Old 04-07-2014, 06:38 AM
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good lord what a mess!

those valve boxes look pretty deep, covered with years of mulch
they were proabably set too low in the first place, and full of dirt!

Tie That Rain Sensor Cable To The Rain Sensor Terminals!!
Why do people cut the common in the clock instead of utilizing the sensor
terminals??
to me it just shows someone was rushing to make money, screwing over the next guy in line..

Boxes were deep some over 8 inches....
Just another day, locating jobs are fun.
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Old 04-07-2014, 01:27 PM
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I'm wondering if there's an airtight argument against the extreme caution of disconnecting ALL the output leads from a controller, prior to connecting a locator to a zone wire.
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