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Old 04-25-2014, 10:48 PM
35DollarLawns 35DollarLawns is offline
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Cutting in new beds/ shaping existing

Here is my issue, I want a bed shaper but I want a cheap alternative to that and i need a compact machine.
I know of several bed shaper brands but I am looking at several and for the type work we do having a sidewinder or brown on each trailer is out of the question.
I have used the ECHO bed-defined and it's a joke, I now hear the sthil shows the same issues.

What is on my mind is if it is posible to combine a standard, milti angle push edger and a bed shaper head and then build a shield.

What I am needing these for is for runs of less the 24' total .
If the echo had the power to turn the head and it had a bed shaper I would drag it around with a smile.
Also a shovel is out as it would require the dirt to be hauled off site where as the others leave it in the bed area.
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Old 04-26-2014, 07:42 PM
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Is there no options besides a shovel a combi unit and then a dedicated bed shaper ?
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Old 04-26-2014, 07:45 PM
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A shovel is the only option you have if you want cheap. It will do the best job, just takes a little longer.
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Old 04-26-2014, 07:51 PM
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What issues have you heard of with the Stihl? I run it on the 130 powerhead and have had no issues, and am very satisfied with the job it does. The only problem I've ever run into with it was trying to use it on ground that was WAY too wet, but that's kinda common sense..
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Old 04-26-2014, 09:56 PM
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I have the sthil kombi bed redefiner and it doesn't do a great job. it leaves a shallow edge. I also would love some equipment that is shaped like a string trimmer (handheld motor and shaft) that can edge deeper than the echo and stihl handhelds.
the thing is when im doing spring cleanups, the trailer is full of mulch usually with no room for a big bed edger. are they that big? id love to use a tool instead of shovel..
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Old 04-27-2014, 09:05 AM
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I have the sthil kombi bed redefiner and it doesn't do a great job. it leaves a shallow edge. I also would love some equipment that is shaped like a string trimmer (handheld motor and shaft) that can edge deeper than the echo and stihl handhelds.
the thing is when im doing spring cleanups, the trailer is full of mulch usually with no room for a big bed edger. are they that big? id love to use a tool instead of shovel..
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This is how I fell about it 100%
I need this to be a everyday carry item as well, as common as a blower.


Issues I have is I don't have a hour to keep going over and over a line to get 6" deep
I hate dragging a sidewinder through the lawns messing up the stripes for the initial cut in to walk 5' to cut a ring to go 5' to do another one then 12' foot to do 24 to 50' of foundation bed shaping to walk 5'foot over to the next lawn.

It is to awkward to drag a full sized shaper to a lot of little jobs.
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Old 04-27-2014, 09:16 AM
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What about the stihl one on a big power head?
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Old 04-27-2014, 12:53 PM
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I have the sthil kombi bed redefiner and it doesn't do a great job. it leaves a shallow edge. I also would love some equipment that is shaped like a string trimmer (handheld motor and shaft) that can edge deeper than the echo and stihl handhelds.
the thing is when im doing spring cleanups, the trailer is full of mulch usually with no room for a big bed edger. are they that big? id love to use a tool instead of shovel..
Thanks
We have the echo and my guys love it. Personally, I think the shovel looks 10x better but on some of the really large properties we have, the echo is a must, especially when it is dry. When its even the slightest bit of wet, it goes to hell
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Old 04-27-2014, 02:58 PM
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Both machines go to pot when it is wet, moist, damp, heck if dew is on the ground .
I have several echo and they are junk as junk gets.
I have demoed the sthil and it is identic in traits with the echo

Is there nothing lighter weight then a dedicated shaper with better performance then the combi units out there?


If a person took a push edger and put the echo shaper on it would it have better power output? The reason I ask is a echo cutting tooth will fit any brand edger out there, it don't require any special gearbox just bolts on.

I assume the issue with the combi head is the horse power /torque powering it is to weak
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Old 04-27-2014, 03:04 PM
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Can anyone actually post a sthil shapers photo showing
The profile of teeth? I would like to study it
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