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Old 05-10-2014, 02:27 PM
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If you wanted it... I've got a basically brand new 2012 36" Metro w/ECS.... honestly it probably has less than 50 hours. I've got a sulky and factor bagger. I'd let it go for $2500 for all of it.
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Old 05-10-2014, 02:33 PM
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No offense but if I were you I'd buy the cheapest most reliable mower you can find. After reading your posts, IMO there's way much thinking and way too many excuses for you to be in this business for the long run. Good luck.
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Thanks. Appreciate all the info you've provided. I have a lot of things to factor in. But I'm dedicated and will make it work, even if everything expands slowly. Which, so far, seems to be the most likely case.
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Old 05-10-2014, 02:36 PM
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If you wanted it... I've got a basically brand new 2012 36" Metro w/ECS.... honestly it probably has less than 50 hours. I've got a sulky and factor bagger. I'd let it go for $2500 for all of it.
Thanks! I'll keep that in mind. Honestly, I'm leaning against the WB now because of trailer size. I could make the Commerical 30 work, and wouldn't be as much of a learning curve amongst everything else that I have to deal with on a daily basis.
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Old 05-10-2014, 03:26 PM
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Ive scanned all five pages of this thread quickly. I don't claim to be any kind of expert, but I went through the same decision process as the original OP.

As you can tell from my signature, I have the exmark 30. For those that say gates smaller than 32 are rare, well....they may be in YOUR neck of the woods, but although they say EVERYTHING is bigger in texas, they aren't exactly right. I have about 3 gates that the exmark 30 IS the absolute biggest mower that would fit through the gates.

I ended up with the Exmark 30 instead of a 36 walk behind so Id have the ablitly to switch quickly from Mulch to bag. I bought the mulch kit for the mower, and never put it on, because it mulches just fine with just the mulch plug in. I steered away from the 36"'s because they would take longer to switch mowing heights, and wouldn't switch from mulch to bag quickly.

To the original OP, ive been happy with the exmark 30, and holding the drive bar partially in isn't a big deal at all, and you get used to it. Where the exmark 30 may present a problem is in the thick spring growth while trying to mulch. I agree with other who have posted it will bog down some in the thick stuff. It also doesn't work well on steep hilly areas.

Im not trying to convince you either way, for or against the Exmark 30. Figured id just post to provide what I know about the mower after years use.
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Old 05-10-2014, 03:41 PM
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With your size gates it sounds like a good fit for you.

With the mulch kits installed and a chute blocker/bagger adapter of most any kind installed, one can go from mulching to bagging and back again in seconds. My homemade chute blockers have all cost less than $10 each to make. As to height adjustment, with a floating deck, that can also be done in seconds.


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Old 05-10-2014, 03:43 PM
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Ive scanned all five pages of this thread quickly. I don't claim to be any kind of expert, but I went through the same decision process as the original OP.

As you can tell from my signature, I have the exmark 30. For those that say gates smaller than 32 are rare, well....they may be in YOUR neck of the woods, but although they say EVERYTHING is bigger in texas, they aren't exactly right. I have about 3 gates that the exmark 30 IS the absolute biggest mower that would fit through the gates.

I ended up with the Exmark 30 instead of a 36 walk behind so Id have the ablitly to switch quickly from Mulch to bag. I bought the mulch kit for the mower, and never put it on, because it mulches just fine with just the mulch plug in. I steered away from the 36"'s because they would take longer to switch mowing heights, and wouldn't switch from mulch to bag quickly.

To the original OP, ive been happy with the exmark 30, and holding the drive bar partially in isn't a big deal at all, and you get used to it. Where the exmark 30 may present a problem is in the thick spring growth while trying to mulch. I agree with other who have posted it will bog down some in the thick stuff. It also doesn't work well on steep hilly areas.

Im not trying to convince you either way, for or against the Exmark 30. Figured id just post to provide what I know about the mower after years use.
Great info. And thanks! I have the same issue with gates. How does it do with bagging in high or wet conditions? Does the chute clog very often?
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Old 05-10-2014, 05:35 PM
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I have a 36" fixed deck belt drive. Was less than the Exmark 30" mower - and will outlast 3 of them!

I would tell you that my mower will run circles around the exmark 30 all day long but figured it would be better to show you. Here is a link to my work thread http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?t=423985&page=4
Some of them pictures were taken cutting 2 foot high grass in the pouring rain - Anyway check it out, hope it helps!
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Old 05-10-2014, 06:42 PM
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My personal opinion dealing with WV hills day in and out.... a 36" hydro... NOT a belt drive.
Yeah, Western PA is nothing but hills too and I've yet to find a lawn that made me think "well this easy backing up stuff was a waste of money."

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If you wanted it... I've got a basically brand new 2012 36" Metro w/ECS.... honestly it probably has less than 50 hours. I've got a sulky and factor bagger. I'd let it go for $2500 for all of it.
This forum doesn't have a rep button, or I'd hit it.

Nice offer. If I didn't already have one, I'd be half way there by now trying to throw my money at you.
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Old 05-11-2014, 03:56 AM
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Wouldn't be a dead lift. Prop the front wheels up, then lift the back. Use of a fulcrum reduces work required. Wouldn't be anywhere near a 180lb dead lift.


I do appreciate the information/suggestions though
Dead lift is referring to picking up the mower and putting it in the back of a pick up truck without ramps or trailer…which is the "argument" for the 21/30 crowd (that a wb comes with the added expense of a trailer or ramps)
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Old 05-11-2014, 04:03 AM
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. For those that say gates smaller than 32 are rare, well....they may be in YOUR neck of the woods, but although they say EVERYTHING is bigger in texas, they aren't exactly right. I have about 3 gates that the exmark 30 IS the absolute biggest mower that would fit through the gates.

THREE…you have THREE gates.
In all of your service area you have found THREE.

Know why you have those properties? Everyone else said no, or marked up the price high, because they would be forced to unstrap their 21…and it just aint worth it.

Measure the income of those THREE properties to the lost productivity of sticking with a 30" over a 36"

Quickly switching heights?
Stop doing that.
There aren't reasons to quickly switch heights all day long.

'I want' to do things this way, and this mower allows me to do that is fine.

But it doesn't make it a viable comparison to running a much more productive machine.
It's not a 'this is why the 30" is better' example.

It's "this is why I chose to buy a 30, and this is how I use it"
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