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Old 07-17-2014, 08:44 PM
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Rain Bird is a sponsor

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I'll respond now before lawnsite removes you for not being a paid sponsor. Or, maybe you are but it doesn't show on your profile. But I appreciate you coming on here to address the issues.

The O-rings have been failing for years, and RB knows it. My rep knows it. My distributor knows it. That's why at a local RB lunch they had an envelope full of o-rings that they gave us. The o-ring has had different colors over the last 5-8 years or so as well, which in my "assumption" is to code what version they are so they can see what is working and what is not. The o-rings either at initial installation, or about 3 years after install, start leaking. This keeps the valves from closing. I've had customers try tightening up the solenoids themselves and they break the whole bonnet of the valve by tightening too much.
Also, we are cool on the sponsorship. I spoke with Lawnsite to make sure it was okay and they said we were.
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Old 07-17-2014, 09:09 PM
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Let me know your issues. We will work them with the intent to win you back to the Rain Bird DV. It has been on the market for 25 years and many have had no issues for decades. I am sorry you have had some. Let's get those resolved. rwolfarth@rainbird.com

If you are interested in low cost, check out our HV valve.
I don't want a low cost valve. The industry does not need a low cost valve. The industry needs quality valves, not products that have been value engineered to death. I use the PEB almost exclusively. If I need a lower cost valve I use the PGA, which by the way has a lower net cost through my vendor than the DV-F does. Why anybody would want to cheap out on a critical part of any irrigation system is beyond me.
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Old 07-17-2014, 09:30 PM
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I'm more about long-term repairability, which is why I'll continue with the Richdel designs and their offspring. I do expect that Rainbird will do what it takes to support their plastic valves.

What material change was made in the DV bonnets?
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Old 07-17-2014, 09:54 PM
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I'm more about long-term repairability, which is why I'll continue with the Richdel designs and their offspring. I do expect that Rainbird will do what it takes to support their plastic valves.

What material change was made in the DV bonnets?
The bonnet on the DV (not the DVF) was changed to nylon which retains its shape more consistently in the molding process.
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Old 07-17-2014, 10:08 PM
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Does the nylon allow a faster molding cycling time? (I hadn't really thought about that aspect of the HV design)
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Old 07-17-2014, 11:16 PM
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Does the nylon allow a faster molding cycling time? (I hadn't really thought about that aspect of the HV design)
I am not sure of the impact of the nylon on cycle time. We change to nylon to lower the incidence of distortion of the part after removal from the mold.
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Old 07-18-2014, 12:05 AM
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In case i never get another chance, Props on the 5000 Rotor!!!
(if only! it was "right side fixed- left side adjust" : it would have reached perfection IMHO)
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Old 07-18-2014, 12:38 AM
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In case i never get another chance, Props on the 5000 Rotor!!!
(if only! it was "right side fixed- left side adjust" : it would have reached perfection IMHO)
I will pass along your kind words to the rotor Product Manager.
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Old 07-18-2014, 01:03 AM
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Lawnsite needs a "like button". The other issue is the customer calls again that something happened, rotor not turning, valve leaking, you give us a new product but we never, (I never) see a return on my time, that I cant recoup, since its warranty, to fix your manufacturing f*** up.
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Old 07-18-2014, 01:40 AM
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Lawnsite needs a "like button". The other issue is the customer calls again that something happened, rotor not turning, valve leaking, you give us a new product but we never, (I never) see a return on my time, that I cant recoup, since its warranty, to fix your manufacturing f*** up.
Get to know your Rain Bird rep. What area are you in?
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