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Old 06-08-2014, 12:37 PM
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Kah's rotor patent is for the reversing mechanism only. The first Hunter rotors did without it. Anyone remember those fixed-arc heads?
And the first hunter rotors are something you would like to install now? Because of their immense high quality?

K-Rains rotor isn't a 'knock off'

I actually prefer their 1" valves.
I prefer their Pro series rotors for sports field applications.
The RPS 50 (which used to be called a mini pro) is the best 1/2" rotor I have used (lets face it the PGJ sucks)….NOT that I use 1/2" rotors much, so the point is kinda moot.

I liked RPS 75 over the PGP, until the PGP Ultra came out… now the PGP Ultra is all I seem to use.

I really like K RAINS custom Rotor Label head program… I just haven't used it yet, but would love too.

I just never need that many heads in inventory to warrant the cost, yet.
It's been too long since Ive had that many large projects line up to want to buy that many heads, bulk.
But I really like the idea.

Anyway, K Rain isn't "Orbit" simply because it's not one of the "Big Three" (Hunter Rain Bird Toro)

In the world of irrigation,
I think over all I like toro.
I use hunter the most.
Clocks I prefer Hunter.
over 1" valves, rain bird.
Popups , Rainbird.

Don't ask me why.


If I were to install an entire system, it's almost always going to be hunter.

but I have installed ALL K Rain systems in the past, using Acclima Clocks (is K Rain Stuck in the 80s with their clock/controllers??)
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Old 06-08-2014, 02:32 PM
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Even the reversing mechanism patent may have expired by now. Most of the PGP (G-series, P-series, Series 075) patents have expired by now, so it's wide open to anyone to make a PGP-type rotor.

The gear drive and the nozzles weren't big issues with the original Hunter rotor. It was the wiper seals more than anything else that early Hunter installers griped about.
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Old 06-08-2014, 05:59 PM
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Even the reversing mechanism patent may have expired by now. Most of the PGP (G-series, P-series, Series 075) patents have expired by now, so it's wide open to anyone to make a PGP-type rotor.

The gear drive and the nozzles weren't big issues with the original Hunter rotor. It was the wiper seals more than anything else that early Hunter installers griped about.
Well yes, but that still doesn't make the RPS75 a 'knock off'.


honestly there are better rotors out there than the PGP by far,

but RB rotors started getting stupid expensive.

IT's hard to warrant the better I 20s in most cases.

and if you ask me the T5 is by far and away a better rotor than both the RB and Hunter products.

but just because someone is more familiar with the PGP doesn't make RPS75 some Johnny come lately clone.

I understand K Rain has a pretty strong foothold in Florida, and certain does in athletic turf which is where I first encountered them.

K Rain was the first with a single head shut off in them in anything smaller than a valve in head design. (or at least that I was aware of)
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Old 06-08-2014, 06:17 PM
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K-Rain may be better than Hunter but that is not saying much. As far as RB pricing... you are misinformed.
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Old 06-08-2014, 06:43 PM
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K-Rain could not have made the RPS75 while the original Hunter patents were still in effect. It exists only because of the success of the PGP.
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Old 06-08-2014, 06:54 PM
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It exists only because of the success of the PGP.
That statement is long gone.
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Old 06-08-2014, 08:27 PM
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That statement is true forever, because the PGP got there first, even before it was named PGP.
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Old 06-08-2014, 09:03 PM
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Big deal, the guy probably didn't even get rich.
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Old 06-08-2014, 09:07 PM
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Everybody but Rainbird and Toro had a rotor head that was the same height and diameter as the PGP - Hardie, Nelson, Weathermatic - not a coincidence.
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Old 06-08-2014, 09:10 PM
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Hardie, Nelson, Weathermatic rotors are all junk. - not a coincidence.
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