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Old 07-27-2014, 04:49 PM
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been thinking hard about scag 32" belt drive lately too.

but the price is nearly double of a 30" and we go back to having to train guys to use them instead of just walking behind them on day one.
But so much more efficient. Add a sulky if you want. Twice the power. Last for 15 years. If a guy can't master a beltdrive there are a lot bigger things he will suck at that will make the job look bad.
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Old 07-27-2014, 06:15 PM
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The benefits I've seen to our company switching to the 30 inch exmarks: The cost of the machine. Three machines equals one hydro walkbehind. The 30's come with the bag, mulch plug, and side discharge. Walk behinds you pay $300 plus for a bag, and $200 plus for a mulch kit and if you want to ride $200 plus for a velkey. The cost hurts your profit. The 30's you can change right away walkbehinds you can not. Versitility with cutting is huge, if you really care about making the lawn look great for the customers. We can put a good hard worker behind a 30 without a lot of training. Teaching someone to use a hydro takes time. In the spring no one has time to train. I can have back up mowers with the 30. If you use the mowers hard all mowers ztr's, walkbehinds, and 30's,at times break down with the 30's cost you can have a back up mower ready to go. The price we spend on gas is less. The cut is great. The 30's have some good points of the 21's and the walkbehinds. No mower is perfect. The cost to fix the 30's is less. Break a hydro pump get ready to pay big money. I did twice!
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Old 07-27-2014, 08:15 PM
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My Hydrocut 32" brand new was 3-K. A nice 21/30 combo is going to run the same but you don't have the hydros. The 32 gets through every gate down here. Way bigger motor too. Mulching thick summer St. Aug is a PITA with a 21" and im sure a 30". I only have to make one pass with my Hydrocut mulching in summer. I say stick with a 32".
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Old 07-27-2014, 08:20 PM
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Like Patriot said a Scag will last 15 years easy. I doubt your going to get that out of a 21 or 30.
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Old 07-27-2014, 08:28 PM
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My hats off to you guys that only use these mowers. My guys do rock, paper, scissors to see who gets stuck doing the very few spaces a 21 is needed. I would shoot myself in the face before doing 4k of turf in this heat walking the mower.
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No joke. Running my 27" Tru-cut is hard as heck in this humidity. I can only imagine doing a 21".
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Old 07-27-2014, 08:33 PM
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The breeze one gets from riding a Z mower, sure is appreciated a lot more in the summer heat.
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Old 07-27-2014, 08:34 PM
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I really work hard to market myself to clients with smaller lawns. It keeps me able to use my 30 and my 48 walk behind. In my area it seems that those size yards I can upsale more extras and make better profit. Every area is different but that is what fits my business plan
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Old 07-27-2014, 08:34 PM
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The breeze one gets from riding a Z mower, sure is appreciated a lot more in the summer heat.
I can't argue with that lol
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Old 07-27-2014, 08:56 PM
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But so much more efficient. Add a sulky if you want. Twice the power. Last for 15 years. If a guy can't master a beltdrive there are a lot bigger things he will suck at that will make the job look bad.
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dude…3/4 of the people *on this site* can't master a belt drive!! what hope is there for cyclic employees?
That's the main attraction to the commercial 30, little to no training for employees to start mowing.

As it is right now I still have two guys that REFUSE to use the 36" walk behind we have because they say "its faster to use 21's"….no they are just too dumb to work it right….they can run a Vride or a Tiger Cat, but not a SWZ? Friggen stupid.
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Old 07-27-2014, 09:01 PM
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My Hydrocut 32" brand new was 3-K. A nice 21/30 combo is going to run the same but you don't have the hydros. The 32 gets through every gate down here. Way bigger motor too. Mulching thick summer St. Aug is a PITA with a 21" and im sure a 30". I only have to make one pass with my Hydrocut mulching in summer. I say stick with a 32".
well yes, there is the 32" hydocut… which there is no "steering" just muscling it around. so basally just as intuitive as a 30"…. what do you think of the hydro cut?
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