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Old 10-16-2000, 09:49 PM
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Let me also join this club. People won't listen even when I point out the ill effects of watering daily . ?????????? I am puzzled.
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Old 10-16-2000, 09:58 PM
Eric ELM Eric ELM is offline
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I don't think half of the customers with watering sytems know how to turn them off. Also the rain detectors aren't functioning either, because I see them watering in the rain too.
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Old 10-16-2000, 10:04 PM
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We had a Park District that did the same too much water, they where leaving tracks thru the park all the time, finialy came out with the Irriagation guy and showed them how much they where watering,(over 1" a day) shortien the story some we removed our garrentee of all the plants and sod that we installed. This year they are replacing all the sod do to the fact that fungus has taken over and killed over 50% of the park!
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Old 10-16-2000, 11:37 PM
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I could spend 2 hour talking about how much this bothers me, my goal is to treat every lawn as if it was my own. When I can't do a great job because they watered, it ruins my day. I've repeatly told customers, if they have to water, please don't on the day we cut. This aproach does not seem to work.

I've gone a step futher to included a watering fine on there bill, never had a complaint, they just pay the bill. After a couple weeks of cutting wet grass, I just turn off the sprinkler valve on the side of the house.

There is no reason to cut grass thats almost as tall as the front wheels of the DC and wet. 75% of lawns we cut are on clay, so if you make one wrong move a HUGE patch of sod is ripped up.

I don't think people understand, if we work together they could have the nicest lawn on the block.
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Old 10-16-2000, 11:53 PM
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I explain to them what the purpose of watering is: To water the grass roots to a depth of 6". This is done by applying 1" of water per week, preferably all at one time. If run-off is a issue I have them set sprinklers for less time, and have them run it through the zones 2-3 times that same day to get saturation. I simply explain watering 15 minutes per day is a total waste of time, water, and money due to the fact that the water NEVER EVER penetrates the soil much over 1/4" (around here). Next time I would take them out to the lawn, explain again, and then pull back a 1" or 2 of soil and show them how shallow they are watering. Shallow watering = shallow root system, shallow root system = , well you know the story....
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Old 10-17-2000, 12:09 AM
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All plants must respire - take in oxygen - as a catalyst to the photosynthesis process. Most plants, except for a few water plants, respire through their roots. Air containing oxygen is washed into the soil by rainfall and irrigation. Excess water will drive the air out of the soil. Result is drowning plants - just as harmful as drowning people or animals. The worst damage to landscapes in the USA is not from insects, diseases or any other form of pest, it is overwatering. The second worst damage is overfertilization.
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Old 10-17-2000, 12:17 AM
T.C.O.B. T.C.O.B. is offline
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Where I come from OVERWATERING, is just as bad as not watering. Plants and turf need only so much water, the rest is wasted. This practice is detrimental to the health and vitality of the customers landscape investment (weeds,drainage, shallow roots). Not to mention a watse of a precious natural resource. Call your local co-op extension or irrigation professional in your area to find out what the proper watering rates are for the soil in your region.
We offer seasonal timer adjustments to our customers, as well as rain guage installations. Hey, he may not know how to operate or adjust the timer, offer to inspect it for free. It could save you alot of time and negative energy spent on something that can be resolved in 10 minutes.
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Old 10-17-2000, 01:09 AM
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how is every1 doin im new to this forum.i think u guys are all doing a real nice job helping each other out .i myself have benifited from this forum plenty.i have about two customers that love to tell me i havent water it since last week i would never do that when i no you are coming to mow.just raise the cut price i did i up both from thirty to forty .i simple tell them that whatever is wet clumps up on the lawn and i have to rake it or it will just sit there until next week and charge them an extra 10.oo so 40.oo a cut is good
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Old 10-17-2000, 01:19 AM
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Did any of you ever ask to look at the irrigation system? I know my watering customer had to finally admit that she had absolutly NO CLUE if and when she watered. I looked at it and adjusted it for her free of charge. "Just another service that we provide for our loyal customers ma'am" (So we dont break our necks on your stinking hilly lawn tomorrow)

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Old 10-17-2000, 01:32 AM
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I wet lawns. Not so much soggy but wet. I've got one account that knows when I'm coming and when I show up their sprinklers are running. No prob. Just turn them off. Hose is around the corner. Wait one second. I gotta pull the hose in 50 feet takes about 3 mins. for me coiling and everything. What a pain in the rear. Then the lawn is wet still and I gotta clean my deck when I get home. I also have to dodge dog poo, sticks, river rock, a couple of chickens, move their tables and chairs toys all at one account! Don't get me wrong, I'm friends with these people but they say they're gonna do something one week and it's like it never existed the next. No, I can't afford to drop the account like you guys could. They were my best account profit wise and I'm still not done working for them yet this year. Still got leaves and aeration. I like money!

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