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Old 12-10-2004, 12:26 AM
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Irrigation Check List Form?

I'm in the process of drafting up an irrigation check list form that we can use out in the field when we are checking irrigation systems.

Does anyone have such a beast already made that you wouldn't mind sharing?

Basically I want to create an irrigation checklist/estimate sheet that we can use on the site while we are checking the systems. This list will probably contain a list of stuff that is commonly needed to fix most systems that could be check off along with other documenation about where heads need to be replaced, cleaned, broke, how many zones, stations, time settings ect. Maybe even an area graphed off for drawings.

I'm hoping to come up with something that will help document our work better plus if someone else needs to goto the job site for the repair that didn't do the first initial check they will have some documention to look over that might help.

This would also be handy if actual irrigation repair is not done right after the initial check.

Also, I'm also curious what type of system some of you other guys do when checking a large system? Do you use various colored flags to mark off heads if they need to be replaced, cleaned, broke, ect? Do you document your initial check during the check or after your done?

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David H.
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Old 12-11-2004, 12:01 AM
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Irrigation Checklist

Are you a licensed irrigator? If you supply me with your license number I can put you directly in touch with the author and teacher for the State program who can answer your questions. If you are not maybe you should consider becoming licensed. There's too many yahoo's out there trying to do irrigation who are not licensed and not qualified. Rock On.
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Old 12-15-2004, 10:08 PM
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Licensed irrigators?

They license irrigators there in Texas? I wish they did here in Califorrnia. Or at least required some kind of third party certification.

Too much cheap competition and little or no enforcement from the Contractors Licensing Board.

As a licensed landscape contractor I'm able to install irrigation, low voltage lighting, and install most hardscape except for swimming pools and spas (which I can apparently hire a subcontractor to do but not advertise for according to the new regs.)

Technically a plumbing permit is called for in most municipalities, but it's enforced so little I've been laughed out of the inspector's department a couple of times. I've pointed out code violations to homeowners regarding improper installation or lack of backflow prevention devices. A few go for upgrades, but most don't seem to care.but a lot don't care. Which device is accepted depends on the water purveyor, sometimes a municipality, sometimes a private company. Residential irrigation compliance is low on their list compared to commercial developments.

As a licensed landscape contractor (C-27) I'm able to install irrigation, low voltage lighting, and install most hardscape except for swimming pools and spas (which I can apparently hire a subcontractor to do but not advertise for according to the new regs.)
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Old 12-21-2004, 07:49 PM
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Are you a licensed irrigator? If you supply me with your license number I can put you directly in touch with the author and teacher for the State program who can answer your questions. If you are not maybe you should consider becoming licensed. There's too many yahoo's out there trying to do irrigation who are not licensed and not qualified. Rock On.
Maybe you can help me.. you think I need a liscense to do sprinkler checks? We do that as part of our normal lawn business. And we are not looking for a teacher but we are asking if the industry has any standard forms. And we aren't yahoo's I am a Mechanical Engineer!
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Old 12-21-2004, 08:48 PM
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The only standards in irrigation are the lack of standards. Its unfortunate , but it does guarentee that repairs and upgrades will always exist.
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Old 12-22-2004, 01:33 AM
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Maybe you can help me.. you think I need a liscense to do sprinkler checks? We do that as part of our normal lawn business. And we are not looking for a teacher but we are asking if the industry has any standard forms. And we aren't yahoo's I am a Mechanical Engineer!
To answer your questions.

1. In Texas you MUST have an irrigation license to design, sell, install, or repair any kind of landscape irrigation system. Technically speaking if you mow a head off you cannot legally replace the head if it is not on your property. You can operate the system, but not work on it.

2. There are standards for installation of irrigation systems in Texas. There are requirements for precipitation rates based on the area of the state. (There are four precipitation rate zones in Texas). There are requirements for wire sizing, head spacing (do not exceed manufacturer's recommended spacing) as well as requirements for backflow device installation. The problem is that there is not enough enforcement of the rules and regulations.

3. There are no real standardized forms for irrigation checks, repairs, estimates, etc. Most irrigators use whatever they feel will get the job done. I use a modification of a couple of forms that were compiled by a number of irrigation technicians. One is a walk-thru sheet that allows me to make the necessary notes as I check out the system. I take the form and a can of marking paint and follow the system. The other form is a repair estimate form that I submit to the customer for approval. And the last is a repair record form that I submit with the invoice that describes what was actually done. If you would like a copy of the forms drop me an email. They are in Excel format.

I would strongly suggest that you consider obtaining an irrigation license if you are going to offer this service to your customers. Without a license in Texas you cannot even advertise irrigation services in the phone book, newspaper, etc. There are local irrigation associations around the state and most supply houses can put you in contact with the members.

You should also go to the TECQ website for more information concerning the Texas Irrigators Law.

Hope this helps,

Jerry Rasmussen
Tx Lic Irrigator #1452

Just noticed that you are from the Austin area. Contact Gene Reagan at TECQ for further information. Also you can contact Joe Key, Johnnie Madison, or Hugh Rushing concerning the local association. Also contact Lynn Chaumont at the City of Austin Landscape Codes Department.

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Old 12-22-2004, 05:57 PM
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Thank you for showing everyone that orthography IS important!!!-Garth MacG
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Old 12-22-2004, 09:21 PM
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Thank you for showing everyone that orthography IS important!!!-Garth MacG
?????? What does that have to do with the question at hand?
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Old 12-23-2004, 11:37 AM
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Absolutely nothing. It was just nice seeing someone in Texas that could actually spell. And you didn't use "y'all" once!
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Old 12-24-2004, 03:45 PM
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Texas woes! What’s this about requirements for precip rates based on areas within the state? And Jerry, you said requirements, not recommendations, for head spacing and wire sizing as well? This is Texas law, eh?

Oh… and Jerry, I’d be interested to see what the Excel forms look like that you’re using for your irrigation work. I have a fairly detailed system for my grounds maintenance work, but nothing dedicated just for irrigation. As they say though… never too late to learn new tricks. Thanks,

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