pondless waterfall questions for new guy

[willywebb@charter.net]

I'm thinking of installing a pondless waterfall, I am thinking of using a 55 gallon plastic barrel for my under gravel catch basin (cutting a hole in the lid for pump acess, and drilling lots of holes in the side) my question is-- "will it work?" , will the pump be noisy?, what size pump do I need for a 6 foot rise? Also, do I need the falls filter? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[PSUturf]

How far is it from the pump to the top of the falls? How wide is the stream or falls outlet? The falls filter will help with filtering the water.

[northmichigan]

Originally Posted by willywebb@charter.net

I'm thinking of installing a pondless waterfall, I am thinking of using a 55 gallon plastic barrel for my under gravel catch basin (cutting a hole in the lid for pump acess, and drilling lots of holes in the side) my question is-- "will it work?" , will the pump be noisy?, what size pump do I need for a 6 foot rise? Also, do I need the falls filter? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

i built a couple of pondless waterfall the last few years and the pump is in a housing connected to the catch basin [that is made of pond liner directly under the falls.] the pump doesn't sound loud at all.the smaller the catch basin the more often water will need to be added [evaporation].i used a drip line fitting connected to the sprinkler system.
the pump for a six foot rise would be determined by the amount of water you want to flow over the falls.
one pondless falls i built my long time customer wanted three separate falls on top of each other. so i carved two huge lava rocks into bowls for the water to fall into.
mj

[JimLewis]

Yes, it will work. That's pretty much what we did. See this thread.......

http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?t=78712