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Old 02-05-2001, 09:38 AM
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Don't till it. You'll expose more weed seeds than you knew existed. The first step is to identify the reason for the bare spots. Here's one possible explanation...

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150 pounders like this can ruin 12 square feet of lawn surface and I've seen lawns riddled with them.
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Old 02-05-2001, 11:02 AM
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Spike areate it instead of core. Then overseed. Tilling up an established yard can cause it to become too fluffy(mushy). And all the seeds make not grow anyway so you then be stuck with bare spots again. Overseed, fertalize and/or lime/ and water every year until you get the look you want. Another way to do it if there is not too many bare spots or it is a small yard. Hand steel rake the bare spots and get seed/topsoil already mixed and hand throw it out on the bare spots. Make sure it is the same type of the surrounding grass.
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Old 02-09-2001, 01:04 PM
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Some weekend towards the end of April send me an email with your address and I'll stop up with either a core or spike or both aerators and I'll give you a hand. This will be a good way for us to finally meet.
Just don't put any premergents down or the seed won't grow.
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Old 02-09-2001, 01:46 PM
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I don't know Eric. You better watch making those offers.
Pretty soon, you'll have people all over the U.S. calling
you wanting your expertise hoping that you will assist them
in making their yards look as good as the ones on your website.
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Old 02-10-2001, 08:16 AM
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Thanks Eric, I appreciate the offer. Maybe that's why I couldn't get anything to grow last year, because I put a Pre-emergent down. I even tried using that stuff that feels like insulation, with the grass seed and fertilizer all in one. Couldn't even get that to grow. I'll get in touch with you as soon as the weather breaks. Thanks to everyone for their help!!!

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Old 02-10-2001, 02:16 PM
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Try using these calculations to estimate the cost of materials for the job on top of what a rental firm will charge you for an aerator and tiller. I would also see if you dont have some leads to a tiller thats pulled by atractor. I did my parents 2 yrs ago and I subbed this portion out.

For new installs we use:
6 lbs. of seed per m/sf
5 lbs. of pelletized lime per m/sf
5 lbs. of strter fertilizer per m/sf

If its in the budget becxause its your OWN lawn you could consider using peart moss instaed of straw at the rate of 3.8cf/150 sf of turf area.

Hope this helps.
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Old 02-10-2001, 04:19 PM
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If you got a professional in your area like erick here than set something up with him. You'll probaly save your self money in the long run and have a much better looking yard to show for it. We can help you with a lot of different things in this forum but when it comes down to something like this you just have to see it to know truthfully what to do. Theres to many variables to cover without actually being at the site.
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Old 02-13-2001, 04:56 PM
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put some seed down then some starter fert. and top it off with leafgro or compro. you may even want to airate frist.
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Old 02-15-2001, 09:09 PM
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Do NOT till up your yard in the spring you can power rake & then over-seed with GOOD seed do not put down the pre M this yr.Then over-seed 8 weeks later. if you do not like the cores from aerating use a spiker. you can get good seed @ olsen's in Barrington on pepper rd.
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Old 03-04-2001, 11:30 PM
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First, where do you live. maybe one of us can stop by and take a real good look at it. if not i would do the following: I agree with charles and turfquip: do not till it. if the yard is slooped, you can run the risk of washing away your topsoil. I would test the PH level in your soil, or take a sample to a local nursery and have them test it. Then, if nothing is wrong, I would overseed it heavily, then thrw straw over the newly seeded lawn, but not too thick!!! 2 bales should do your entire yard. water it for about an hour every other day depending on the weather, and see what happens. once the seed germinates, or begins to grow, weait 2 weeks and put down a weed & feed. this will fertilize the soil and grass, and kill some of the weeds. Good luck!
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