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100 sq feet patio

Discussion in 'Landscape Architecture and Design' started by alpine692003, May 24, 2004.

  1. alpine692003

    alpine692003 LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,502

    Hey, how long do you guys think it will take to do a 100 sq feet brick patio?

    the surface area is already prepped.. meaning the gravel is already tamped.. I have to lay down bedding sand and then lay the bricks and put play sand ontop of the bricks after and tamper..

    you guys think approx 20hrs?
  2. kris

    kris LawnSite Bronze Member
    from nowhere
    Posts: 1,579

    20 hours to lay one pallet of stone? Shouldn't take you that long.
  3. alpine692003

    alpine692003 LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,502

    I'm going to meet with the customer right now..

    so far the information I have from them is;

    they have the bricks, area is dug up, some levelling required, the depth is only 2 inches.. I must tell them they need at least 5.5inches of gravel and sand or else they have some drainage problems right?
  4. kris

    kris LawnSite Bronze Member
    from nowhere
    Posts: 1,579

    the patio will fail with a 2" base. Have you done any paving stones before? If not do a search ...there are hundreds of great posts on here about patios.
  5. alpine692003

    alpine692003 LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,502

    yes, thats what I said ..

    Anyways, I came back from the customer's house.. here's the situation, maybe you guys can help me out because I have to submit the estimate in a few days..

    12ft long x 8ft wide patio = approx 96sq feet so i'll say 100 sq feet
    - customer already dug the area and put a 2" base with gravel and play sand lol ..
    - I told them you need at least a 5.5inch base to start off with!

    Here's the step you're suppose to do but i'm not sure how long it will take me!

    - put down landscape fabric to separate soil and gravel
    - spread gravel 2" then compact
    - spread another 2" gravel then compact again so 4" base
    - put down bedding sand onto of gravel 1.5" base so - 5.5" base
    - rake sand smooth with screed
    - lay 1st row of bricks running bond pattern
    - if necessary, cut off bricks in halves.
    - install plastic black edging so the bricks dont move along the edges, nail down 6" spikes
    - tamper bricks and remove cracked bricks, replace crackes ones
    - sweep mason sand in between the bricks, tamper, water

    Those are the steps right?

    The materials I have to get are;
    bedding sand, gravel, plastic edging, masonary sand.
    - power tamper, cut off saw tool rental..
    = I'm looking at $200 approx for materials

    Now comes the labour time, I've done a basalt stone patio before.. So I have some idea of how to do this!

    I'm guessing 16 - 20man hours with 2 people @ 35 per person...
    $70 x 16 -20hrs = 1120 - 1400..

    What do you think, is it too much?
  6. Rex Mann

    Rex Mann LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 621

    First, you'll need to remove the 2" of gravel and remove more soil. Next, install the geo-textile. Then, install your aggregate base in lifts. Now, you can compact in 2 inch lifts. Screed out your sand. Lay your pavers, cut your pavers, install the edging using 12 INCH SPIKES. Now, tamp the pavers once using overlapping passes. Add the sweep sand. BTW: concrete sand must be used for the bedding sand. It can also be used for the sweep sand. DO NOT USE MASON SAND FOR THE BEDDING SAND! Sweep the sand into the joints. tamp one more time and sweep more sand. Now, hose it off and get paidpayup

    Time wise one experienced guy could do this in 8-hours depending on the cuts. 8-hours on site, not running to pickup rental equipment and materials.

    Two guys could do it in about 3- hours.

    Best of luck with your project.



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  7. alpine692003

    alpine692003 LawnSite Bronze Member
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    I know that bedding sand is not used as masonry sand, lol..

    Masonary sand is what you use to sweep between the pavers.
    Bedding sand is your base for the pavers..

    You think 16hrs is too long, I've only done 1 patio job before.. This will be my 2nd if i put the bid in at $1450 inc. materials.

    you think its too much, you do need a 5.5" base though right rexx?
  8. RedWingsDet

    RedWingsDet LawnSite Gold Member
    from Detroit
    Posts: 3,556

    sorry for the question, but i am laying a 190sq ft patio. but what does screed the sand mean?
  9. hole in one lco

    hole in one lco LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,793

    its a fancy word for leveling
  10. hole in one lco

    hole in one lco LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,793

    I use polymeric for my jointing sand if you want the best you need to use the best.

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