Well, first off, I'm not a prick. I'm one of the nicest, most helpful guys you will ever meet. Always go the extra mile to help out ANYBODY who asks for it. And I bet you'd would NEVER call me a prick if we were face-to-face, because I'd slap the taste right out of your mouth. Aside from that, nobody is "holier than thou" or "macho". It seems to me that someone (you) lacks the confidence, and/or balls to step up and discuss business principles, pricing, etc. Instead, you take it personal, and run from a difference of opinion instead of attempting to justify your opinions. If you ever want to discuss business, let's do it. but, I don't speak "whiney", and most other professionals don't either. And, to be completely honest with you, I don't think ANYONE cares if you come here or not, just as they don't care if I come here either. This is a great forum, and guys can disagree and still be friends, without name-calling and acting immature. Until you can play along, feel free to continue to charge your low prices. The prices may not be low for you, if you know what it takes to be profitable. Sounds to me like you took it personal, so maybe it hit home. And the reason we act "macho", is because for some reason, every Joe Blow thinks that because he knows how to turn on a pressure washer, that he must also know how tot use it correctly. It's not an attitude; it's an irritation that our industry standards get compromised by folks who have no idea how this industry works. hope that helps clarify.