1972 Ford dump

Discussion in 'Trucks and Trailers' started by yrdandgardenhandyman, Oct 3, 2005.

  1. yrdandgardenhandyman

    yrdandgardenhandyman LawnSite Senior Member
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    I have a chance to pick up a 1972 Ford 1 ton truck with dump box for les than $800.00. Runs well, transmission good, body good, hydraulics tight and clean. Needs a rear end.
    My question is, does owning a truck like this really enhance the business opportunities? Is it worth it to own a dump box? I already have 2 pickup trucks, both half ton. This would be used only when there is something to haul, ie mulch, rock, etc.
     
  2. Ironmower

    Ironmower LawnSite Member
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    Sounds like a pretty good deal if you ask me. A F-350 of that vintage IIRC has a Dana 70 rearend. You can have it rebuilt if you can't find a new one.

    If you feel like decoding the VIN on it, visit www.fordification.com . That is a site specifically dedicated to the restoration of 1967-1972 Ford F-100 through F-350 trucks.
     
  3. Gravel Rat

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    If the old truck is in good shape go for it but you should upgrade the front brakes to disks the old front and rear drum brakes don't stop very well. As for a rebuilt rear it might be a spicer 70 being that old. It might be cheaper to find a Dana 70 out of a 77-79 Ford and change the whole housing etc.

    Depending on how good the dump body is in the body its self is worth 800 dollars all depending on condition.

    If you have a landscape company and you have never had a dump once you get one you can't live without one.
     
  4. Smalltimer1

    Smalltimer1 LawnSite Bronze Member
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    The best way to put front disc brakes on a 67-72 F-series truck is to find a 73-79 F-series truck and swap the I-beams (preferably off a parts vehicle). They will directly interchange and you can find them all over the place.

    It should be a Dana 70 according to the chart from http://www.fordification.com/data-1972.htm .

    Let me know if I can be of any further assistance.
     
  5. Gravel Rat

    Gravel Rat LawnSite Fanatic
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    My dads old 75 F-350 wouldn't stop at all with the old drum brakes on the front so he swapped out the old drums for disks out of a 78 F-250 it increased the braking power alot. The truck ended up with regular wheels on the front but it worked.
     
  6. xcopterdoc

    xcopterdoc LawnSite Senior Member
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    72 was a good year for Ford trucks. What engine does it have?
    The stopping capability of these old trucks is pretty good even with drums IF you do it right. Many folks nowadays dont know how to do a proper brake job on drum brakes anymore.
    That being said.. if you go the route of switching brakes from drum to disc on the front.. do as suggested and get a donor front end and swap it out. You will need the master cylinder, lines and hoses, and the proportial valve to make it all work right.
    The Dana/Spicer rears are easy to rebuild and parts are plentiful if the housing isnt ruined.
     
  7. yrdandgardenhandyman

    yrdandgardenhandyman LawnSite Senior Member
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    According to the vin, it's a 360. Has a gvw of 10000 lbs. Not a lot of rust. The frame and all the hydraulic hoses, cylinder and mounts look real solid. I haven't talked to the owner yet. My brother in law told me about the truck and it is only a block and a half from my house. It is owned by a plumbing company. They are asking $800.00 OBO and it has been there all summer. I need to do a little more research to find out what I need to get it on the road. I guess the next step is to call the owner. Thanks for the input. Keep it coming.
     
  8. Gravel Rat

    Gravel Rat LawnSite Fanatic
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    The 360 Ford engine is a pig it wasn't one of Ford's best it will do the job but its a real gas guzzler. The 390 which is next size FE block was a far better engine more power it had 255hp and 376lbft where the 360 had 215hp and 327ftlb. The short stroke made the 360 a POS which caused it to get worse fuel mileage than the 390 they both had the same bore size.

    As for the major rust problem the 70s Fords all had problems with the inner fender rusting out mainly around the top of the cowl where the hood bolts on. The cab corners are bad for rusting through and in that year cab mounts.

    The old 70s trucks in this area are pretty slim the orange cancer has pretty much taken the life of most of them. I used to have a 79 F-150 4x4 a 78 F-250 ext cab 4x4 and a 77 F-350 dually with a 79 Front clip I don't have any of them anymore. I would like to have a 79 F-250-350 4x4 reg cab LB with 4spd again but they are hard to find. With the price of fuel nowwadays a person couldn't afford to drive one.
     
  9. yrdandgardenhandyman

    yrdandgardenhandyman LawnSite Senior Member
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    So what kind of mileage are we talking about? Would a price of $600.00 make up for the difference and make it worth it?
     
  10. Smalltimer1

    Smalltimer1 LawnSite Bronze Member
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    A 360 will get 10mpg tops. I never really liked the 360 for anything other than the fact that it is a reliable engine.

    The 360 was a truck only engine (not available in cars) as designated by Ford and as such they put a truck/torque cam in it and ran a 2bbl carb on them, which is what pigged them out on fuel. Pretty much any of the mods that you can do to a 390 can be done to a 360. Mainly I would put a 4bbl intake & carb on as well as a newer towing cam from a mfg. such as Edelbrock or Crane.

    Let me just add on that at that price, if the truck was taken care of and in good shape, I'd be on it like white on rice. :D
     

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