1st Year of Organic Program

Discussion in 'Organic Lawn Care' started by Pundit, Mar 6, 2007.

  1. Prolawnservice

    Prolawnservice LawnSite Senior Member
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    There are no true organic products with that much N. :hammerhead: Marketing terms and uninformed public = big money, and a leave a bad taste in peoples mouth for organics. A true organic company will follow some sort of guidelines, and will have the sense not to use any synthetic products, especially under the guise of an organic program.
     
  2. turfsolutions

    turfsolutions LawnSite Senior Member
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    I have a business in delco pa. Natural Lawn is not necessarily the company most people believe them to be. They most likely do not use 100% organic fertilizer, rather a standard fertilizer that has some organic base to it. If you read their program they do use synthetic herbicides as well. I will give them credit as they are more enviromentally friendly than many other companies out there. They still are a large company and sometimes as a result, you don't know if they guy making the applications is knowledgeable. In Pa. you don't have to be liscenced to make lawn applications, just registered with a company that has one liscenced appicator.

    What I say to my customers is that in the beginning of your lawn renovation process you will in many cases have to use synthetic herbicides to get the weeds under control and allow the grass to mature. Once the grass is mature then an organic program is very beneficial with weed control done on a spot spray basis.

    Contact me if you would like any information on my company.
     
  3. Pundit

    Pundit LawnSite Member
    from PA
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    Thanks. I am going to give it a shot myself this year and see how I make out.
     
  4. Naturalman

    Naturalman LawnSite Member
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    I've done some research into the products NLA uses in their programs. It is produced at a chemical fertilizer factory called Spring Hill, I believe. It is traditional chemical fertilizers laced with some sewage sludge "biosolids". Their typical program that they recommend is use of this product plus 2 to 3 synthetic pesticide treatments, including a pre-m and spot treatment for weeds. I find this very deceptive.
     
  5. mrkosar

    mrkosar LawnSite Senior Member
    from Ohio
    Posts: 664

    not really deceptive if they offer a pure organic program too. in my opinion they are still maintaining lawns in a safer manner than some other companies that just haphazardly spray unnecessary chemicals as band aids.

    not sticking up for them, but i see tons...tons of companies in my area spraying unnecessary chemicals because it is efficient for them. they don't care about the soil, pets, children, etc...all about the bucks.
     
  6. Pundit

    Pundit LawnSite Member
    from PA
    Posts: 7

    I found a local store that has a nice supply of organics. I am gong to do it myself.
     
  7. turfsolutions

    turfsolutions LawnSite Senior Member
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    You say you see tons and tons of companies spraying harmful chemicals. How do you know what they are spraying? You probably would see me out there spraying a lawn and think the same, but more than often I am spraying or spreading a natural product. Don't be too quick to judge all companies.
     
  8. Shades of Green LService

    Shades of Green LService LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,011

    Turf, What all Natural Products are you applying if you don't mind sharing? I tried going a more organic route this year, but the co. i was going to use Tech Terra organics would not split a pallet for me 20 of one 20 of another. i told them i would even pick it up being that they are in NJ. Anyone ever do business w/ them?
    -Jay
     
  9. turfsolutions

    turfsolutions LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 852

    The organic fertilizer is called earthrite. I get it from a local supplier at a 5-3-2 and 3-10-2 mix. Not cheap and very dusty. I only use this on 1 step per year. I would like to find a less dusty organic fert and use it on all granular fert steps. Still working on that one. I spray Companion and Essential, both manuf. by Growth Products. growthproducts.com Calcium based limestone and gypsum, Potash if soil tests call for. Those to name a few.
     
  10. mrkosar

    mrkosar LawnSite Senior Member
    from Ohio
    Posts: 664

    Very true, i guess i don't know for sure 100%...but most companies around me I know people working for them and their programs. There are several in this area that blanket spray at least 3-4 times a year with herbicide even if a lawn has 5 weeds in it. Just my experience with my local companies. By the way there are no natural companies around me, so I know they are spraying pesticides. So, I guess about 98% sure that they are spraying unnecessary chemicals.
     

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