2 ton and larger dump trucks with 4x4

Discussion in 'Trucks and Trailers' started by rawtoxic, Dec 14, 2009.

  1. Lawn Man Dave

    Lawn Man Dave LawnSite Senior Member
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    Agreed, I would be furious if I lost money because something got screwed up and nothing showed up or late....... not to mention with a larger dump/truck you can haul away a lot more stuff (weight) and make more money that way..... it helps expand what you can do.

    If the truck breaks you can call up another company and get them to deleiver short notice... it may cost you but it will still show up.... if you don't have a truck and they don't show up then you are dead in the water.... or are left making many calls trying to find someone else...
     
  2. johnnybravo8802

    johnnybravo8802 LawnSite Silver Member
    from Ga.
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    Anytime you have to depend on someone else, they are going to let you down and, most of the time, sooner versus later. If you survive in a business, you have to do it yourself, period. Yea, my wife doesn't understand either.:rolleyes:
     
  3. Petr51488

    Petr51488 LawnSite Silver Member
    from NJ
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    aint that the truth! Even if it costs you more at one time or another, as long as you satisfy the customer, you'll make your money back and then some.
     
  4. OhioMowerGuy

    OhioMowerGuy LawnSite Senior Member
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    There was a pic on heavy equipment forums of a guy pulling his 953 cat track loader with a 4x4 GM 5500 dump. It wasnt even really squating, wasnt really legal either haha. I think a 953 weighs around 30k give or take a few thousand. Let me see a F550 do that. That told me that these trucks are tanks. Im not bashing fords either, I like the super dutys.
     
  5. 4 seasons lawn&land

    4 seasons lawn&land LawnSite Gold Member
    from NY
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    Why are these type of trucks so unpopular? Thousands of trucks on truck paper and the only 4x4's are F-550's. There are no used 4wd GM's, freightliners, or internationals anywhere. Those are the only ones I know of that even make 4x4 2 tons.
     
  6. Lawn Man Dave

    Lawn Man Dave LawnSite Senior Member
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    From what I have read the single axle dump's don't carry enough (weight in the dump) to make it worth while so people just go to a dual axle or more.
     
  7. Gravel Rat

    Gravel Rat LawnSite Fanatic
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    Most single axle dump trucks are not used much. In my area once you get above a F450-550 guys run tandem axle dumps. A single axle doesn't carry enough weight. A F-550 is used for a work truck and packing upto 3 yards of dirt.
     
  8. 4 seasons lawn&land

    4 seasons lawn&land LawnSite Gold Member
    from NY
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    Ive had over 2 yards of dirt in my 3/4 ton. I hope an F550 can carry more than 3. Those have a 19,500 GVW, thats double my truck.
     
  9. Gravel Rat

    Gravel Rat LawnSite Fanatic
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    My F-450 with a 15,000lb gvw is loaded with 6600lbs that is 2.5 yards of gravel.

    One Yard of gravel weighs 2500-3000lbs so 2 yards ranges 5000-6000lbs. There is no way you can get 2 yards of gravel in a pickup truck the box isn't big enough.

    I have a 11.5 foot long by 8 foot wide with 10 inch sideboards on my flatdeck on my F-450 you can't get anymore than 2.5 yards. With 2 yards on the truck it is a good size lump of gravel.
     
  10. 4 seasons lawn&land

    4 seasons lawn&land LawnSite Gold Member
    from NY
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    well Im getting ripped off by more than one place then. Most times I have skid steers put in 2 buckets, 1 yard bucket... and my box is smaller than a stock one because it has a dump insert.

    Once I had a 3 yard bucket of mulch dumped in but a good amount spilled over the sides.
     

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