Brules- thanks very much for links. I admit I suck at finding anything new on the net. It's not for lack of trying or just being too lazy. I just don't seem to ever punch in the right search words to get the results I'm looking for most of the time. I really don't care for the pimp daddy low pro rear tires. On a car I understand the purpose. On a mower they're just rediculous. I don't care for the engine choices on these new machines either. Even if I were strictly buying a machine for homeowner use, I'd want a top of the line engine, and would gladly pay more for one.