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24D In burndown, how long to wait to seed grass?

Discussion in 'Homeowner Assistance Forum' started by coadman, Apr 27, 2013.

  1. Snyder's Lawn Inc

    Snyder's Lawn Inc LawnSite Platinum Member
    Posts: 4,541

    Its not a farmer thing Might be a Midwest word
    Smallaxe Might call it something else
    If you just used gly you seed right behind it
    I always wait 7-10 days So I make sure I have 100% kill no green grass or weeds showing before I break ground
     
  2. I think the mistake was putting 24d in it when it was not needed, and cost you some time.
     
  3. Smallaxe

    Smallaxe LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 10,081

    That's what I thought it meant... so when the henbit is dead and dry, it is burned down and ready to seed...

    More interestingly for me however, is that you've been doing no-till... Our experience around here is that no-till works OK for a few years but then the soil loses too much humus and needs to be turned...

    How many years have you skipped plowing? and what kind of soils do you have??and are they holding up OK???

    Thanks for any replies on the subject... I know that is not what yousigned up for... :)
     
  4. Kiril

    Kiril LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 18,298

    Hint ...... what does the label say?
     
  5. coadman

    coadman LawnSite Member
    from Kansas
    Posts: 6

    Label says plenty about applying 24d onto existing grass stands, but I could find nothing about time period to wait after applying 24d, such as we did. I checked the label before I posted on here initially.
     
  6. coadman

    coadman LawnSite Member
    from Kansas
    Posts: 6

    Went full notil here in 2004, had experimented on a couple of fields for several years before I went all in in 2004. Wished I had done it 20 years ago ! We rotate quite a few crops, and the past few years have been incorporating cover crops into our rotation, with excellant results. Soils run from a clay gumbo type soil, to very, very, sandy. Notil has worked very well for me, no matter what soil types I have. The only thing that has been troublesome the past two years, is the summer drought we have all been experiencing in the Midwest.
     
  7. greendoctor

    greendoctor LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 8,802

    How much 2,4-D was applied per acre? If it was 1 lb or more, 30 days at least.
     
  8. Snyder's Lawn Inc

    Snyder's Lawn Inc LawnSite Platinum Member
    Posts: 4,541

    I cant remember last time, We had are plows out. Was going plow the Food plots but weather went bad last fall

    No-till drills are faster and save on fuel
    All we do is Soy beans every year We add Fertilizer and Drill beans
    bottom ground sandy black dirt what We have on
     
  9. Smallaxe

    Smallaxe LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 10,081

    That's good to hear... thanks... :)
     
  10. Kiril

    Kiril LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 18,298

    A label for 2,4-D

    http://www.southernag.com/docs/labels_msds/2_4-D.pdf


    LAWNS, GOLF COURSES, CEMETERIES, PARKS, AND SIMILAR
    ORNAMENTAL TURF

    Apply 3 pints per acre ( 6 1/2 tsp. per 1000 sq. ft.) in sufficient water to give
    good coverage (usually between 3 to 5 gals water per 1,000 sq. ft.) In-
    crease this to 4 pints per acre (3 Tablespoons per 1000 sq. ft.) if hard to kill
    weeds (Spurge) are present. Do not apply to newly seeded lawns until
    grasses become well established. Injury may result if applied to Bentgrass,
    St. Augustinegrass, Carpetgrass, Centipedegrass, Dichondra, and Clovers.
    After weeds have died remove all dead vegetation. Prepare the seed bed
    by addition of top soil, peat moss or other soil amendments. Work into the
    topsoil. Wait 2 weeks then seed the area at 1 1 /2 times the recommended
    seeding rate.
    Keep soil moist through the first cutting.
    The Maximum number of broadcast applications per treatment site is 2 per
    year.
     

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