24v Install

Discussion in 'Landscape Lighting' started by Mayor_tx, Feb 3, 2009.

  1. Mayor_tx

    Mayor_tx LawnSite Member
    from Austin
    Posts: 62

    We just installed our first 24 volt system. All Unique products and I was pretty impressed on the amount of wire/homeruns and time it saved me. I was just wondering what pros and cons you have on 24 volt so far.

  2. The Lighting Geek

    The Lighting Geek LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 875

    I installed a 260 fixture job with 24v and it saved me a bundle on wire.
  3. INTEGRA Bespoke Lighting

    INTEGRA Bespoke Lighting LawnSite Platinum Member
    Posts: 4,102

    Tommy, you know I have respect for you, your business and your talent, so I am not trying to be-little you in any way here....

    I gotta say about your comment above; "So what?" So you saved some money on wire, meaning your client saved some money on wire. Is that the only advantage you have found? A 260 fixture installation is not (or should not) be chump change in the first place. On a $80 to $100K lighting system (minimum if you are "doing it right") do you really think that saving some money on wire is of great importance? Was saving a couple of grand on wire the difference between you getting the job and someone else getting the job? I would think that a client in that strata is hiring you based on performance and not just on cost. Am I wrong?

    I do understand the technical advantages of 24V power systems. There is a time and a place where they might be more competitive or better suited to a specific application (remotely located transformers for interior applications is one example) but I for one think that our industry should be moving towards standardization rather than fragmenting more into factions.

  4. Eden Lights

    Eden Lights LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 805

    Does GE CC have a full 24V MR line?
  5. JoeyD

    JoeyD LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,933

    That is awesome!!! THe 24v system is taking off!! The wire is a huge advantage over standard 12v systems but so is the ability to capatilize on more lights per transformer. Let me know if you have any questions moving forward!! What fixtures did you use?

    Thats one of the biggest perks!!!!!
  6. JoeyD

    JoeyD LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,933

    Not sure on the CC but I know we are using GE for majority of our 24v MR16's and our beloved PAR lamps.....
  7. Lite4

    Lite4 LawnSite Gold Member
    Posts: 3,113

    I think you may have misunderstood what Tommy was implying. I don't think he used the 24v to make it cheaper for his customers, I think he was commenting on putting some additional $ in his pocket at the end of his job over a 12volt based system by not having to buy as much wire. I think he was referring to increasing his bottom line and not the homeowners. Just my impression though.
  8. JoeyD

    JoeyD LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,933

    Maybe he meant that his install was more effecient and didnt waste as much wire also? Maybe he also meant that he was able to use smaller guage cable and make use of fewer transformers?? Maybe he meant he was not afraid to step outside of his comfort zone and try something NEW?? Maybe he realized everything we do is NOT smoke in mirrors as some may suggest in bad letters sent by competing manufacturers??

    Maybe I just think to much....Maybe?
  9. INTEGRA Bespoke Lighting

    INTEGRA Bespoke Lighting LawnSite Platinum Member
    Posts: 4,102

    Maybe Joey, maybe! :)

    Also, keep in mind that in some jurisdictions, we are regulated at to what construes a LV Outdoor lighting system.

    Have a great day.
  10. TXNSLighting

    TXNSLighting LawnSite Fanatic
    from DFW, TX
    Posts: 6,462


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