297c impressions

Discussion in 'Heavy Equipment & Pavement' started by ccstrebe, Jul 31, 2008.

  1. ccstrebe

    ccstrebe LawnSite Senior Member
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    I finally got to see the 297C today. I ran over to San Diego (3hr one way) and got to demo one.

    All I can say is WOW!! Comparing my 450ct to the 297c is like comparing an International pickup truck to to a Caddilac Escalde. I don't even know where to start on how much better the engineering is and how well thought out this machine is. It is way more ergonomic and user friendly and the engine access is unreal. I am at a loss of words on how much better this machine is. It was fully loaded, (so is my 450ct) which is the same way I would get one. If the numbers are good I'm placing my order tomorrow.

    I feel like a kid at Christmas, I hope it doesn't take too long.
     
  2. bobcat_ron

    bobcat_ron LawnSite Fanatic
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    I thought you were trying out the new CTL from Cat!?!
     
  3. Junior M

    Junior M LawnSite Fanatic
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    woooo!!! are you talkn about case? i am so freakn confused!
     
  4. caterpillarkid

    caterpillarkid LawnSite Member
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    Hi my name is Nicholas I am 20 years old and new to this site. I just love equipment and about 6 months ago i demoed the 277C 287C and 297C! I have to totally agree with you the 297C that i demoed was fully loaded and this thing was so sweet i felt bad even putting her in the dirt. But the thing was a work horse, i ran it for a day in about 100 degree weather and didnt break a sweat or get fatigued. The hydraulic power was incredible, and the pushing power was the same. I just put a order on a 277C that is fully loaded with a dirt bucket with a tooth bar and a 6 way dozer blade. I havent ran one yet with the dozer blade so i hope it will cut like it should. lets hear more about that 297C!
     
  5. Scag48

    Scag48 LawnSite Fanatic
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    The only thing I really dont' like, at this point, about the C series machines with cabs are the doors. Holy crap, is it just me or if you swung that thing open the wrong way, it would snap? I couldn't get one to close very well on a 262C, felt like I had to slam it much harder than I should.
     
  6. BIGBEN2004

    BIGBEN2004 LawnSite Senior Member
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    He owns a Case CTL but demoed and is probably going to trade for a new Cat MTL.:hammerhead:
     
  7. ccstrebe

    ccstrebe LawnSite Senior Member
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    I did notice that door seemed flimsy, but it had the plastic door and I would get the glass door option, which I suspect would be a little stiffer, I would hope.


    I didn't get to demo it in really rough stuff but what I did demo it in, compared to my 450ct on the same type of terrean, it was like floating on air. The air suspension seat alone with its 6” of travel makes me feel like a king sitting on a throne. I didn't notice any vibrations and the cab noise seems to be about half of what the Case cab noise is. On the Case I wear noise cancelling head phones and I have to turn off the engine to answer a cell phone call.

    There are so many things I like about this machine. I really like the split arm rests and the fact that they are adjustable. I like the location of the hand throttle, very easy to get to. I like the foot throttle pressure, the Case foot throttle is so stiff that it is usless, I wound up just keeping it full throttle at all times.

    The machine I demoed didn't have the switch for the Case h pattern so I was a little lost with the pilot handles but they felt good.

    On the Case, If you ran it out of fuel, it was a major chore to bleed the injector lines and get it re-primed and going. You had to lift the cab just to get to the injector lines. On the Cat open the back and raise the radiators and you have full and complete access the the whole engine.

    On the Case you have to lift the cab to change the fluid filters and the oil filter you would have to be a contorsionist to get to, Lord help you if it is on too tight. On the Cat everything is right there when you open the back door, amazing engineering compared to the Case.
     
  8. bobcat_ron

    bobcat_ron LawnSite Fanatic
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    Those were the same things I liked too, even the built in fuel primer pump, that set up is used on the bigger machines and it works real nice.
     
  9. ccstrebe

    ccstrebe LawnSite Senior Member
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    My Case has 2 speeds but you have to hold the button the whole time you want to be in 2nd gear, the new Case now has a detent so you dont have to hold it in but it starts out in 2nd gear from a dead stop. The Cat takes it to another level. If you have it in 2nd gear it doesn't actually go into 2nd gear until you reach 3 or 4 miles per hour, in other words it acts more like an automatic tranmission. Simply amazing how this machine works.
     
  10. qps

    qps LawnSite Bronze Member
    from Indy
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    I own a 297C and so far I'm happy with it...don't tell KSSS you liked it better than his beloved CASE machine....he would be crushed:laugh:
     

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