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2WD Getting Stuck--tire options

Discussion in 'Trucks and Trailers' started by TomberLawn, Jan 25, 2010.

  1. 360ci

    360ci LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 991

    I'd stick with an A/T tire, but NOT too aggressive, or you'll have more traction problems. If you want to get mud terrains, be sure to get the siped to give you better traction. Runs about $20 a tire, and is worth it!
     
  2. JMLandscaping

    JMLandscaping LawnSite Member
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  3. TomberLawn

    TomberLawn LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,298

    Nice tires, JM.

    I'm not looking for a winter tire. Here in NC, people flock to the grocery store for bread and milk when there's a slight chance of flurries. I need a tire that will grip well and provide flotation in off-road conditions. I'm not mud bogging with this truck, but it does need to be able to get out of a little mushy stuff once in a while.

    I may go as large as a 305/70/16 tire. This is the same height as a 285/75/16 and has about 1" more width.

    By the way, the truck is a 1999 Dodge Ram 2500 Cummins, extended cab, short bed.
     
    Last edited: Jan 25, 2010
  4. 360ci

    360ci LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 991

    That would definitely put a LOT of weight on the front end. Say about 35% on the rear wheels when empty. I suggest sticking with all terrain tire, as they offer good traction for the rubber surface area, where as mud terrains have less rubber surface area and they're named 'mud' for a reason. A lot of owners with 2wd vehicles in my area think it's OK to put mud terrains on a rwd trucks in the winter, only to find out that a standard all season can out perform in the snow and slush. Getting a mud tire siped would be a better option to at least get better traction overall as an all terrain. Muds have more sidewall bite, but if you go with say, Michelins new AT2 tire, it's a great build and I haven't had any issues with my set on a 2003 Astro cargo van, which has next to no weight in the rear and tire spin is minimal in the snow, and even on wet grass areas. It has some sidewall bite should the tires try to sink, but the tread is still aggressive enough to get you out of low traction situation without slipping. the only downside is the price. Runner up would be the BFG A/T. If you must go with a mud tire on a rwd vehicle, be sure to get it siped. Siping will allow better wear characteristics and allows some flex in the tread to allow better grip.
     
  5. pitrack

    pitrack LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,049

    At least put sand bags back there man. A 2 wheel drive pickup with no weight in the bed is almost useless.
     
  6. TomberLawn

    TomberLawn LawnSite Bronze Member
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    I wrote a short article about siping in a newsletter advertising tire service for the truck shop I work at part-time.

    I know A/T's will handle better on the road. I just don't want tires becoming slicks like the tires I have now. One revolution and the tread is packed with mud.
     
  7. Gravel Rat

    Gravel Rat LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 9,544

    I have never had much luck with Firestone tires I found the rubber compound to be very hard.

    Your problem is the diesel adds alot of front axle weight the second problem is the power breaks the traction and causes wheel spin.

    I have had good sucess with the Toyo M55

    www.toyotires.ca/products/M55.asp
     
  8. TomberLawn

    TomberLawn LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,298

    Thanks for all the suggestions. I know more weight would be good, but it's just not feasible to haul an extra couple hundred pounds of lead in my bed. I'll probably throw 265 or 285 on the front next time around too, to help keep the Cummins from sinking in.

    I think I've narrowed my choices down a little. At least until I see something else that catches my eye...lol. Each has 18 or 19/32" of tread, which I was thinking wasn't all that deep until I remembered I've been working with big rig tires at work that have 32/32" tread.

    Dunlop Maxx Traction M/T
    http://www.tirerack.com/tires/BigPi...QR6ROVMT&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes

    Kumho KL71
    http://www.tirerack.com/tires/BigPi...7QR6KL71&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes

    And depending on what kind of deal I can find, Goodyear MTR
    http://www.tirerack.com/tires/BigPi...WMTRKOWL&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes
     
  9. ruffs

    ruffs LawnSite Member
    from md pa
    Posts: 74

    tires atrnt your prop a realy good locker or lsd can be had for the price of a set of tires.
    a locker will take you further than tires . If you have one wheel spining you cae put on the e break this will stop the spining tire and equlizing the torque and make bothe wheels turn . diy traction control. In a 4wd just ride the brake
     
  10. TomberLawn

    TomberLawn LawnSite Bronze Member
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    The truck has a limited slip differential. Both tires are spinning already.
     

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