3-way green-up transition bermuda

Discussion in 'Pesticide & Herbicide Application' started by VARMIT COMMISSION, Jan 26, 2009.

  1. VARMIT COMMISSION

    VARMIT COMMISSION LawnSite Senior Member
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    Has anyone (southern-boy's) every yellowed bermuda just out of dormancy with a 3-way product. I have not but always read it on the label and just wonder if it is ever a problem? I always spray a liquid fert at the same time so I wonder if this prevents it for me?
     
  2. greendoctor

    greendoctor LawnSite Fanatic
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    It sure does. A moderate rate of liquid N and some iron minimizes the adverse effects of herbicides. I try to include some N and iron when spraying simazine and Image. Reduces the stunting and discoloration that can occur. I do not do that if MSMA is being sprayed. It tends to cancel out the MSMA.
     
  3. VARMIT COMMISSION

    VARMIT COMMISSION LawnSite Senior Member
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    I sprayed a 2 acre lot and used iron and fert. with MSMA and the MSMA did nothing for the crabgrass. Didnt even yellow the bermuda and it was July and hot. So I agree totally.
     
  4. greendoctor

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  5. quiet

    quiet LawnSite Senior Member
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    Hmmm, interesting! My local Lesco guy has given me several tips, but only one that was worthwhile: add their High Combo Manganese to MSMA.

    Otherwise I add a little of the Liquid Ironite to a spray mix to increase uptake, and minimize turf damage from the herbicide.

    But once I added the Liquid Ironite to an MSMA mix, and didn't get quite the results I wanted. Liquid ironite has ammonioum sulfate added . . .

    Hmmmm! Interesting! Anyone else add manganese to MSMA?
     
  6. greendoctor

    greendoctor LawnSite Fanatic
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    Metals cancel out the effect of the arsenic. Especially if they are in the sulfate form. Liquid ironite is metals in sulfate form.
     

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