331 and a S175 Now What?

Discussion in 'Heavy Equipment & Pavement' started by Wing 97, Mar 23, 2006.

  1. Wing 97

    Wing 97 LawnSite Member
    from CT
    Posts: 62

    Hey guys, really enjoy reading all of your input in the recent threads posted. In the past 13 years my buisness has been 85 percent property maintenance (commercial/residential). Up until recent I had a skid steer but I recently accquired a 331 excavator. My plan is to slowly get out of the residential maintenance, continue maintaining commercial accounts, and ultimately be able to generate enough buisness for the skid steer and excavator to replace income generated from residential accounts. I don't really want to get into large hardscaping projects because I would like to stay a one man operation. Bascially I just want to run the equipment (dig and go?) but I am not sure if there is a niche for this kind a operation. Considering the equipent I have what cliental should I target? (I did think about this before i bought the equipment but would like your thoughts)
     
  2. jblawns123

    jblawns123 LawnSite Senior Member
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    You bought a skidder and an excavator before getting the work to justify its existance? :confused:
     
  3. Wing 97

    Wing 97 LawnSite Member
    from CT
    Posts: 62

    I knew somenone would have to say that. Some people buy boats, sports cars, have kids, I buy equipment (helps with the taexes). That being said any helpful information would be appreciated.
     
  4. Wing 97

    Wing 97 LawnSite Member
    from CT
    Posts: 62

    By the way the skid steer is used almost daily in my exsisting buisness.
     
  5. Scag48

    Scag48 LawnSite Fanatic
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    Talk to contractors, although they are difficult to deal with sometimes. There's always utility lines that need to be trenched, that could be a start. Believe it or not, with your equipment you could do garage/small home addition footings and such, concrete pads, etc. Light demolition is a money maker as well, but can be a bit hard on the machines. I would start with the contractors first and see if they need a sub to come in and do some side work. But if you do go down the contractor route, just remember that no more than 25% of your revenue should come from one source.
     
  6. tylermckee

    tylermckee LawnSite Member
    from wa
    Posts: 248

    Like scag said talk to contractors, lots of utility lines, storm and sewer lines, fixing drainage problems, driveway and yard grading, etc. Lots of places a couple of small machines like your bobcats can squeze into. Could handle light land clearing. I dont know about your area but around here there are a few landscape companies that dont have any equipment so when they need to run irrigation lines and spread top soil they bring someone in.
     
  7. UNISCAPER

    UNISCAPER LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Do the contractor thing as mentioned. There is a guy here who bought a fully equipped Dingy thingy trailer. Calls himself Digity Dog. After 2 years, he had to emply a guy and buy one more truck/trailer combo. He drives around and excavates for all the contractors who wanto stay legal, and all the illegal aliens that resort to hand labor when digging a swimming pool or planting trees. You'll do fine.
     
  8. ksss

    ksss LawnSite Fanatic
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    I think it may be tough to have both machines and stay a one man band so to speak. At least on a many but not all of our jobs we are running an excavator and skid steer on the same job at the same time. Certainly on jobs like digging additions or rock wall building jobs, they require two machine to be moving at the same time. Maybe seeking out a reliable part time guy that can run equipment would be the answer. Schedule your jobs which require both machines at the same job to be moving on the days you have extra help. It certainly wouldn't be very productive to make a pile with the 331 and then jump on the 175 and move it and go back to the 331.
     
  9. Scag48

    Scag48 LawnSite Fanatic
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    Kaiser is right, you'll need 2 people to keep the machines running. I'm working on a job for my parents at their motel, doing some road building and parking lot prep and I'm having to jump between the skid steer and excavator alot. It's really a pain but I don't have a deadline so it doesn't matter to me a whole lot.
     
  10. Wing 97

    Wing 97 LawnSite Member
    from CT
    Posts: 62

    My ace in the hole is my semi retired father who helps during busy times and with snow removal. So when the circumstances call for a second operator in order to be more produdtive I am covered. Since my experience has been in the property maintenance area my next question would be what is the best way to base my rates (hourly or by the job) for this size equipment.
     

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