O I tried one a Dealer demo it long time ago. Think when they first came out and they still look the same I know its different, But Im looking at the final product a tiller will do a better job. I don't use my tiller for a final I use my Turf Shaper. It like a tiller but it stirs the soil and levels at the same time and final product is a smooth lawn. Guys around here try to seed behind it. All they have is a lumpy lawn and a uneven lawn . They are a cheap to buy that is why they are so popular. If that's all you ever had you wouldnt know difference. If I never seen the Turf Shaper work I say I would be a owner of a Harley Rake but I would have the one with the seed box on the back My Turf Shaper was 12k in 1981.