4 cycle Stihl

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by TotalCareSolutions, Mar 17, 2003.

  1. 65hoss

    65hoss LawnSite Fanatic
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    Yes, its still a mixture. They operate just like the 2 cycle.
     
  2. Grass Master

    Grass Master LawnSite Senior Member
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    Echo is NOT coming out with a line of 4-cycle equipment!!

    They have the technology to design very clean running, lightweight, quiet trimmers that use much less fuel. This new engine technology is called Power Boost Tornado and is available today.

    The 4-mix, 4-cycle combination units are heavier (just pick one up and you'll see) and they have many more moving parts (14-15) that can break and need adjustments. The Stihl and Shindaiwa units have valves that need to be adjusted every 100 hours or so. What a major inconvenience!! (Plus, there is no hour meter on the trimmer so you won't know when to adjust the valves.

    The new Echo technology is out NOW and is way ahead of the competition!!
     
  3. Jimbo

    Jimbo LawnSite Bronze Member
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    One thing I have learned from working in design is that the companies who copy are always behind, and the leaders are out in front trying new things and making it happen!

    Echo is a follower not a leader!! Rock on Stihl!!
     
  4. TotalCareSolutions

    TotalCareSolutions LawnSite Senior Member
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    ditto
     
  5. CBB

    CBB LawnSite Member
    from MS/LA
    Posts: 147

    another 4 cycle that is not widely used is Honda. Very good product. And the pricing is not as bad as many may think.
     
  6. Matt'slawncare

    Matt'slawncare LawnSite Member
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    My dealer told me that they came out with the 4 cycle so they can prove that they are trying to clean up the air. Stihl is the best out the market today, nothing runs like it. :D
     
  7. lawnboy

    lawnboy LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 321

    I have used the honda, and it is awsome. The problem is there are hardly any honda dealers to fix it. I tried a stihl today, and all i can say is it is OK. Not as good as the honda...
     
  8. Grass Master

    Grass Master LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 328

    Stihl came out with 4-mix because the could not get their 2-cycle stuff past the EPA..plain and simple

    The BEST companies (Echo and RedMax) have the needed technology to move on with high quality 2-cycle products.

    Good luck with 4-mix in a commercial application....be ready to spend money on maintenance every 100 hours or so (valve adjustments plus 15 more moving parts than comparable 2-cycle units)...by the way...how will you know??there is no hour meters on hand held equipment.

    Oh...by the way..ask your dealer why approx. 50 percent of Stihl's engines are rated at only 50 hours of EPA compliance. The 50 hour engines are considered homewoner units...I can't wait to hear his answer!!

    PS..ALL Echo and RedMax engines are certified at 300 hours of EPA compliance which is considered heavy duty commercial use.

    Check it out for yourself......2-cycle is the way to go on handheld equipment...always has been and will be for a long time to come.
     
  9. lawnboy

    lawnboy LawnSite Senior Member
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    i agree with you on the 2 cycles. Much better route to go. I have never used the echo trimmer though. We run about 7 of the stihl 85's and 3 of th 80's.
     
  10. Haley Lawn Care

    Haley Lawn Care LawnSite Member
    from NC
    Posts: 119

    You should check to see if your dealer can get Kawasaki 2-cycle equipment. I have the weed eater and backpack blower made by Kawasaki. They are lighter than echo and run much quieter and have the same power. The trimmer is around 280.00 I think and the blower is 350.00 to 425.00 depending on the model.

    David
     

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