44" Lazer Hp Exmark

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by brian12, Oct 26, 2002.

  1. brian12

    brian12 LawnSite Member
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    I am in the market for a small ZTR does anyone know what the price of an Exmark Lazer HP 44" and what motor comes on it?
    And has anyone used one and did you like it? I need a small mower and I want a ZTR not a wb

    Thanks for any input:help:
  2. brian that model comes in either 17 horse kawsaki or 20 horse kohler. i dont know what it cost but i would go with at least the 48 hp really the 52 inch is the ideal machine.
  3. brian12

    brian12 LawnSite Member
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    Price dictates what I can afford, I am close to buying a 48/19 Tiger cub but everyone is so high on Exmark I thought I'd see if I could afford one
  4. Brian

    The tiger cub is a excellent machine to. we just got a 52 tiger cub and it cuts about on par with our lazer hp mowers.
  5. Envy Lawn Service

    Envy Lawn Service LawnSite Fanatic
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    The dealer I talked to priced a 44" with the 20 HP Kolher at $5700. But that price was only good on that one unit and was the only one he had left in stock new. He said he'd offer that price only to get it out of the way for the 2003's.

    I too started out on the small ZTR bandwagon. After shopping a bit, I realized "hey these smaller ones don't have any extra deck left for a trim edge." I think that would be more of a pain in the you know what in the long run than spending the extra now.

    Another dealer priced the 52" Lazer Z to me at $6,750. An extra $1,000 is a hard one to swallow for just a 10" bigger deck. But I'm sure it wouldn't take long to make up the extra $$$ in time saved cutting and trimming up close to stuff.

    Believe me...I feel your pain as well. Let me know if you find something smaller with some trim edge. Even though I'm not all that conserned about having a large cutting width, I have convinced myself that i shouild save the extra and spring for atleast the 52" cut just for the trim.
  6. 65hoss

    65hoss LawnSite Fanatic
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    Not just 10" difference. Different hydro pumps. Same as on the full size lazers. So you get the added speed of the full size lazers. Bigger motors. More add-ons, i.e. anti-blowout baffle. Heck, faster speeds and more width equals more production. Plus trim side ability.
  7. Envy Lawn Service

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    I guess I got lied to then if all this is the case. Here is a copy of the e-mail I recieved from a dealer when I 1st inquired about Exmark....

    Thank for the intrest and the opportunity to earn your busines, the HP unit is
    a small version of the standard Z, it still carrys all of the most important
    fetures, same gauge metal construction, blade assy's, pumps and wheel motors,
    it's just in a more compact package, we have several models to chose from
    starting at $5500.00, Please feel free to call me at ###-###-####.

    I HATE being lied to. If this info is printed in the literature, I'll sure be filling his ear full!!!:angry:

    Anyways, from what I've seen of ZTR's I'll have to have atleast a 52" cut. I have a lot of stuff to trim up against. The 52" is the first to offer any kind of trim edge on the deck. I'd like say a 60" even more. I just have to decidee it that kind of width will be ok for me.
  8. Envy Lawn Service

    Envy Lawn Service LawnSite Fanatic
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    Well, I checked the 2002 literature I have. It states everything is the same other than these things...

    Lazer has system check relief on drive system, HP doesn't

    Lazer is faster than the 44" & 48" HP

    All have deck lift, 44" does not

    Small size difference

    As far as I know, the smaller units will be getting new ad ons like the big boys soon. I'm not sure they will be doing the baffle kit though
  9. Envy Lawn Service

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    After seeing the 44" 48" and 60" all three side by side today, I see that I was wrong about some things.

    The 4" does have a lift. Just not foot assist. but it doesn't need it. The 60" does!!! But the ones I saw today didn't. It isn't all that bad lifting the 60" without foot assist. But it sure wouldn't hurt it to have it either!!! I WONDER IF WHAT I SAW WAS A LATE MODEL???

    The HP's have alot narrower tires too in compairison to the full size 60".

    Really I don't think I'd go smaller than the 48" since it's only $5,700 here. It has just a tiny bit of trim. The 44" has NONE. I too say the 52" is probably the best all around choice though as it has a bit more trim and cut. Is it worth another $1,000??? Well yeah. But I guess it's all realitive to what you can afford if you are paying cash. If you are financing....get the 52" atleast. I would.
  10. brucec32

    brucec32 LawnSite Platinum Member
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    Remember, that nice long trim edge is a double edged blade. The more deck overhang you have, the easier it is to edge, sure. But it also means that your deck edge is further from your front caster wheel, and you're relying on your anti-scalp roller on the deck to protect turf when you hit uneven areas. It won't cut down to dirt, but you also won't get as smooth of a cut as when the deck size equals the wheel spacing on the mower.

    I use the 48" deck, which is a compromise (some trimming ability, but not too much overhang) which works good. And most of the time, I'm on properties where either trimming close or cut quality over rolling/rough areas isn't a big factor. But when it does matter, it's nice to know you can use your big mower to do a good job.

    For example, I have a few lawns that I can mow with my Lazer pretty well. But with a 52" deck, I would probably have to swing to my 21" or 36" walk behinds to make it look nice enough. (rolling terrain in small areas with concave surfaces). That's a big time saver. And even the 44" deck has enough trimming ability to cut up to a lawn's edge. And I have to edge the Bermuda and string trim alongside obstacles anyway(always a blade or two you can't get with any mower)

    Not to mention the fact that I have a few gated yards that my 48" barely won't fit in. The 44" would. Another big time saver. I have a 36" wb, but I hate having to haul its weight around all day for just one or two lawns.

    My question about the 44" deck would be..."does its deck equal its wheel spacing, or is the deck narrower? That might be a problem.
    So the 44" deck has its place, too.

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