A little stronger than 3 way

Discussion in 'Pesticide & Herbicide Application' started by ETM, Apr 14, 2013.

  1. ETM

    ETM LawnSite Senior Member
    from Georgia
    Posts: 536

    Ive been using 3 way for a couple of years and it seems to work good but wanting to go a step stronger. What do you suggest that wont break the bank. Im trying to switch from the regular 2,4d My supplier has recommended some others but cost is double. I have a couple of properties with break thru and I want to wipe out all the crap breaking thru. All the apps were on time Im just thinking the wet spring we are having is causing me some problems. Thanks
  2. bamaturf

    bamaturf LawnSite Member
    from alabama
    Posts: 136

    maybe try 3way ESTER II for earlier apps in cooler weather ,if ur having breakthru in April. Ester II works great if the temp is less than 65 on dormant bermuda /zoysia. watch temp range or u could burn the grass.
  3. inzane

    inzane LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,365

    i like speedzone, but its expensive. I use it on my new starts that are ate up with weeds. at the .75 oz per 1k rate i've had good results even in the cooler weather (although it just took longer). I hate 3 way, I switched to it recently and it just isn't the same. I'd also like to find something that works better than 3-way without the high cost like speedzone.. but, I guess you get what you pay for.

  4. humble1

    humble1 LawnSite Silver Member
    from MA
    Posts: 2,499

    Yup three way ester early on or cool power, the price is more but you use less per K
  5. Ric

    Ric LawnSite Fanatic
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    IMHO 3 Way is already hot enough. It works pretty darn quick and I see response in less than 3 days. BTW I am using it on St Augustine at 1/3 the Label rate.

    Rather than look for something Hotter, I suggest trying to understand lawn care. Customers might think their yard should look like Disneyland but they don't pay Disneyland landscape Prices.

  6. jbturf

    jbturf LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,433

    Also curious what ur having trouble controlling? I assume its just new accts? I will often add a spreader and or sticker when I use a 3 way
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  7. White Gardens

    White Gardens LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 6,776

    One problem might be a possible resistance building in the weeds due to the repeated use of the same product.

    If you guys are out of the safe zone for using an ester, the you might want to switch to a different Amine product and see what results you get.

    We've used "Surge" in the past with great results. Like Speedzone, it's a bit pricy but if you've got some problem lawns you need to get back in line, then it's worth it.

    Also, there is a Low Odor 3-way (verdict is still out on the odor). We used it last fall and it did awesome. My supplier stated that they were getting better results with the low odor 3-way than the standard. He wasn't sure why, but it was noticeable.

  8. Chilehead

    Chilehead LawnSite Bronze Member
    Male, from Stockbridge, GA
    Posts: 1,899

    I find that Image does wonders at suppressing poa annua at a fraction of the cost of Revolver. You just need to put down alot of water with it. A lower concentration of Image with high volume does better than a high concentration with low volume.
  9. Chilehead

    Chilehead LawnSite Bronze Member
    Male, from Stockbridge, GA
    Posts: 1,899

    :weightlifter: YES!! I totally agree that Surge is a fantastic product.
  10. humble1

    humble1 LawnSite Silver Member
    from MA
    Posts: 2,499

    I couldnt see where you were from on my iphone.

    It pains me to have to agree with Dick I mean Ric, but three way is hot enough for you guys down south, up here in the north when its cold you almost have to go down with ester formulations, amine isnt quick enough when its in the 40's on our winter annuals

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